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ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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post #5

This has been my experience. Linux+Steam+Proton delivers a more stable and performant Windows API than Windows. And that was on Windows 10 two years ago. I can only imagine things have gotten worse with Windows 11.

I play a lot of older games from 90s and 2000s. They certainly work better on Linux+Wine+DXVK than on Windows.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#12

I wonder if this is why Xbox Series X never achieved a noticeable performance advantage over PlayStation 5, despite having more capable hardware.

The Xbox runs on a custom OS derived from Windows Core. Not the same as a consumer version of Windows.

[Edit] The answer you’re probably looking for is I/O. The PS5 is much faster than the Series X in terms of getting stuff off disk and actually using it. That more than compensates for the small speed advantage the Series X has.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#13
post #6

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ambCqcFuexk Also, why didn't they install SteamOS directly? https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-42...

Not sure what the specific benefits of SteamOS are. It’s forked from Arch, I don’t know what Valve changes. Maybe slightly better hardware support for Steam Deck? I run Steam on Fedora on my desktop and have no issues.

There's very good steam integration, a controller first UI, it's very performant, sleep works better, fantastic performance monitoring and settings.

I love it, but there's probably not a whole bunch of reason to run it on things in other form factors.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#14

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ambCqcFuexk Also, why didn't they install SteamOS directly? https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-42...

because official SteamOS doesn't support the Xbox Ally X yet. It's safe to assume that official SteamOS will eventually support the Xbox Ally X, but it's not there yet.

Valve moves slowly to add support for more devices, etc, whereas the Bazzite devs can move faster.

e.g.

Bazzite does a weekly release of a stable OS candidate, whereas Valve often takes months, if not up to a year, for to release a stable-channel OS update.

Edit:

Also, Valve tends to wait for proper kernel interfaces for functionality like controlling TDP, RGB, fans, etc. Whereas Bazzite devs are fine with using tools in userspace to directly talk to hardware, etc.

While I do think Valve's approach is better for long-term maintainability, Bazzite will always have the speed advantage because it can hack together a solution via userspace applications.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#15

>> up to 32% faster > Average FPS gain (Linux vs Windows) > +6.6 FPS (+13.47%)

Relative FPS gain is a meaningless metric anyway. Going from 30 to 36 FPS is -5.5 ms/frame, going from 60 to 66 FPS is -1.5 ms/frame.

Taking the average of that is even more meaningless. If they insist in comparing FPS instead of frame times, they should have simply compared the two harmonic means.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#16

I wonder if this is why Xbox Series X never achieved a noticeable performance advantage over PlayStation 5, despite having more capable hardware.

No it's just slowed down by windows bloat. Weaker and mobile devices suffer the most due to aggressive power saving.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

#19
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what the specific benefits of SteamOS are. It’s forked from Arch, I don’t know what Valve changes. Maybe slightly better hardware support for Steam Deck? I run Steam on Fedora on my desktop and have no issues.

There's very good steam integration, a controller first UI, it's very performant, sleep works better, fantastic performance monitoring and settings. I love it, but there's probably not a whole bunch of reason to run it on things in other form factors.

Pretty sure Bazzite offers all those things as well.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's very good steam integration, a controller first UI, it's very performant, sleep works better, fantastic performance monitoring and settings. I love it, but there's probably not a whole bunch of reason to run it on things in other form factors.

Pretty sure Bazzite offers all those things as well.

It does. It provides everything SteamOS does. So if SteamOS doesn't support the Xbox Ally X, why install SteamOS?
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