Anecdotally, ASRock has been blamed also by Intel for shipping motherboards with NIC debug settings on: https://community.intel.com/t5/Ethernet-Products/1-out-of-2-...
Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
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Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
#22That's why I like Apple's vertical integration. If something breaks it's 100% their fault that they need to make right to the consumer, they can't tell you to GTFO and go blame someone else to escape responsibility.
AMD does not sell the motherboard. The motherboard sells the CPU. So motherboard is responsible.
But the relevance here is CPU is burning out because it is being plugged in by the end user. And the manufacturer is blaming the motherboard for their cpu burning. Maybe the cpu should be protective?
Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
#23That's why I like Apple's vertical integration. If something breaks it's 100% their fault that they need to make right to the consumer, they can't tell you to GTFO and go blame someone else to escape responsibility.
Pretty sure they blamed the user holding their iphone wrong.
Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
#24That's why I like Apple's vertical integration. If something breaks it's 100% their fault that they need to make right to the consumer, they can't tell you to GTFO and go blame someone else to escape responsibility.
Dell support has flown a repair guy to my place with spare hardware pieces and fixed my pc in front of me. In my office. And I was partially to blame for the problem (I over clocked the CPU). I told them I did oc the CPU, they changed motherboard and processor anyways. For free.
So not only there are other verticals, but they are better.
Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
#25Anecdotally, ASRock has been blamed also by Intel for shipping motherboards with NIC debug settings on: https://community.intel.com/t5/Ethernet-Products/1-out-of-2-...
The fact that the vast majority of these burnouts are on ASRock is a pretty big smoking gun to me. They're an attractive manufacturer because they're cheap, but at what cost?
Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
#26That's why I like Apple's vertical integration. If something breaks it's 100% their fault that they need to make right to the consumer, they can't tell you to GTFO and go blame someone else to escape responsibility.
You mean like the butterfly keyboard in my MacBook Pro 2016, which could be destroyed by a few specs of dust, and took years for Apple to acknowledge?
Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
#27That's why I like Apple's vertical integration. If something breaks it's 100% their fault that they need to make right to the consumer, they can't tell you to GTFO and go blame someone else to escape responsibility.
It is nice to be able to replace your cpu, or install new memory, or use expansion slots. Not to mention being able to pick hardware that isn’t locked to a single operating system. For me that’s well worth being liable for installation issues.
Personally, I don't miss it, as I'm 100% laptop. If I was into PC gaming, I'd probably have a desktop, but I prefer the simplicity of consoles.
FWIW: Most people who buy laptops are buying at a price point where it's "not worth it" to repair.
Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
You mean like the butterfly keyboard in my MacBook Pro 2016, which could be destroyed by a few specs of dust, and took years for Apple to acknowledge?
or the iPhone 4 Steve Jobs: "You're holding it wrong"
Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
#29That's why I like Apple's vertical integration. If something breaks it's 100% their fault that they need to make right to the consumer, they can't tell you to GTFO and go blame someone else to escape responsibility.
You mean like the butterfly keyboard in my MacBook Pro 2016, which could be destroyed by a few specs of dust, and took years for Apple to acknowledge?
Re: Like Intel before it, AMD blames motherboard makers for burnt-out CPUs
#30That's why I like Apple's vertical integration. If something breaks it's 100% their fault that they need to make right to the consumer, they can't tell you to GTFO and go blame someone else to escape responsibility.