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This doesn't necessarily work for me. I will start going down the rabbit hole of fleshing out ideas and going down corridors of thought, and I'll soon have filled up four or five pages of a legal pad only to have amplified the circus in my head to a deafening level. I find a glass of scotch and putting on an old TV episode that I've seen 100 times before to personally be the best cure for insomnia.

I never understood the old TV show/movie technique, but I might have to try it now. My girlfriend's mother watches Pride and Prejudice almost every night before bed, and I never really got it.

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It's like PG says in his essay,"The Island Test":

"The notebook and pen are professional equipment, as it were. Though actually there is something druglike about them, in the sense that their main purpose is to make me feel better. I hardly ever go back and read stuff I write down in notebooks. It's just that if I can't write things down, worrying about remembering one idea gets in the way of having the next. Pen and paper wick ideas."

Although, I find that most of the time I toss-and-turn b/c my mind is continuously thinking about solving some problem at hand. It's 3am and I should go to bed, otherwise I'll be a zombie at the office tomorrow, but there is this problem that I have to stop thinking about first. Creativity doesn't really follow the same schedules as "business hours"; I would suggest that if you can, stay awake thinking/working/doing until you can't anymore.

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Brain activity aside, I would recommend everybody to exercise at least half an hour in the evening. It guarantees a nice feeling of tiredness at night, and sleep comes easily. Works wonders for me.

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This doesn't necessarily work for me. I will start going down the rabbit hole of fleshing out ideas and going down corridors of thought, and I'll soon have filled up four or five pages of a legal pad only to have amplified the circus in my head to a deafening level. I find a glass of scotch and putting on an old TV episode that I've seen 100 times before to personally be the best cure for insomnia.

I was a terribly good sleeper, up to some point a year and some months ago. Since I had travelled, I thought I had a jetlag. But the insomnia continued for months. Then I started to change things:

- Change my bed time from 24:00 to 23:00. Whenever I don't sleep immediately, my mind doesn't go into the 'yet another night' train. Instead it changes to 'there's still plenty time to sleep'. On the upside, when I sleep quickly, I get plenty of sleep compensation.

- Be regular. During the weekends I try to get to bed at most an hour later and get out of bed an hour later. I notice may body gets accustomed to that schedule. I get tired at the right time, and wake up at the right time.

- I stopped reading news sites (including Hacker News) after 21:00. They get me exited and put my mind into overdrive.

- I stopped using a computer or mobile phone after 22:00. Lots of research has shown that prolonged screen use reduces melatolin production.

- End the day with some simple activity that is only mildly interesting. E.g., if you are not too much into sports, watch some boring sports on television.

- Have some melatolin tablets at home, just in case you have some really bad nights. It's said that they do very little harm.

- Have a second place in your house to sleep (e.g. a couch) if you have a partner. You can avoid keeping him/her awake as well.

- Stop worrying about sleep. It's hard, but it helps.

Since I made these changes, I sleep well 95% of the time. The other 5% I still sleep enough ours to make it through the day.

With respect to the Scotch, as much as I like Scotch, I would avoid it. It helps some, but it can quickly turn into an addiction.

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As someone with serious insomnia, this post comes across almost as selling snake oil. Caffeine, alcohol, general nutrition, sleep hygiene (good sleep habits), sunlight exposure, temperature, eating habits (time/size of meals), all matter -- most of them more than mental state.

From my 20+ years of personally-motivated research on this, I believe the most influential factors in insomnia are, in order:

(1) A controlled, regular schedule of caffeine; limited alcohol. (2) If it exists, a week+ long pattern of waking up at the same time. (3) Exposure to sunlight.

The author's advice is still useful, although I disagree that insomnia "...can be fixed easily and quickly."

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So the author's reasoning goes like this: you can't sleep because you think of stuff (1), and you think of stuff because you are afraid to forget it (1). I agree partly with (1). It is definitely one a major reason sleep stays away. (2) however is way to general. Waaaaaaaay. Maybe it's true for tha author, but putting it like it's the next big truth is a reason not to be taken seriously by any psychologist. Or by me and probably the major part of HN.

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As someone with serious insomnia, this post comes across almost as selling snake oil. Caffeine, alcohol, general nutrition, sleep hygiene (good sleep habits), sunlight exposure, temperature, eating habits (time/size of meals), all matter -- most of them more than mental state. From my 20+ years of personally-motivated research on this, I believe the most influential factors in insomnia are, in order: (1) A controlled…

Exercise too.

As somebody who doesn't sleep well or much, how do you define 'serious'?

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As someone with serious insomnia, this post comes across almost as selling snake oil. Caffeine, alcohol, general nutrition, sleep hygiene (good sleep habits), sunlight exposure, temperature, eating habits (time/size of meals), all matter -- most of them more than mental state. From my 20+ years of personally-motivated research on this, I believe the most influential factors in insomnia are, in order: (1) A controlled…

This article isn't about how we can't sleep, it's the author telling us why he can't sleep.

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Brain activity aside, I would recommend everybody to exercise at least half an hour in the evening. It guarantees a nice feeling of tiredness at night, and sleep comes easily. Works wonders for me.

For me and many others, exercising before sleep will just keep us up for a few more hours.

I prefer to get my exercise in the late morning or early afternoon. Unless it's a very hot day, then I like to exercise in the morning while the day is heating up.

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