I never use color names (except if I quick want to set a color in CSS for testing purposes) so I wonder who is using color names and why? Does all this has any real world implications?
Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
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Re: Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, green is the brightest primary after accounting for typical human vision and typical monitors. The YUV formulas put at nearly twice as bright as red. So a normal display has more green than you'd need, and 00ff00 green has terrible contrast against ffffff white
Extra nitpick.. green isn't even a primary colour. Red, Yellow, Blue are the primary colours that our eyes perceive. Perhaps this contributes to why the RGB numbering doesn't meet human perception of green?
Re: Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
#23The definition of grey is totally debatable, but in W3C spec Green = #008000 (instead of #00FF00, which is called Lime?) makes no sense. How did it happen?
Re: Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
#24Re: Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
#25The definition of grey is totally debatable, but in W3C spec Green = #008000 (instead of #00FF00, which is called Lime?) makes no sense. How did it happen?
The naming is supposed to make sense for humans, not machines. Technically the "greenest green" from a technical POV is #00FF00, but the humans understanding of "green" is something more like #008000.
That claim feels wrong. Colours are a concept on the level of the culture, not on the level of the species.
Re: Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
#26The definition of grey is totally debatable, but in W3C spec Green = #008000 (instead of #00FF00, which is called Lime?) makes no sense. How did it happen?
My guess? Most green things you see are a darker green. The extremely bright green (lime according to the W3C) is less useful, so they probably chose the color based on what they thought the user would expect. Given that RGB is well-known, I suspect their assumption was wrong, but I have nothing to back that up.
just like everything in SW development in the last 10 years. SW is supposed to be an engineering discipline, not a witchcraft.
Re: Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
My guess? Most green things you see are a darker green. The extremely bright green (lime according to the W3C) is less useful, so they probably chose the color based on what they thought the user would expect. Given that RGB is well-known, I suspect their assumption was wrong, but I have nothing to back that up.
Also, green is the brightest primary after accounting for typical human vision and typical monitors. The YUV formulas put at nearly twice as bright as red. So a normal display has more green than you'd need, and 00ff00 green has terrible contrast against ffffff white
Examples ? My "typical human vision" is worse than it was some years ago and my "typical monitors" are different with every iteration.
Re: Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to use them in both X11 and CSS way back in the day. They were really common in X11, because a lot of users were on pseudocolor displays and it made sense to reuse colors as much as possible. If you used uncommon colors in your program on - for example - a Sparcstation 20, the palette would shift every time you moved the mouse in or out of your window. It's difficult to describe to someone that's never seen it…
Here is a youtube video for Windows 3.1 on 16 color palette EGA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATMVrHfrus8
Windows never used pseudocolor as far as I know.
Re: Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, green is the brightest primary after accounting for typical human vision and typical monitors. The YUV formulas put at nearly twice as bright as red. So a normal display has more green than you'd need, and 00ff00 green has terrible contrast against ffffff white
Extra nitpick.. green isn't even a primary colour. Red, Yellow, Blue are the primary colours that our eyes perceive. Perhaps this contributes to why the RGB numbering doesn't meet human perception of green?
Re: Clashes between web and X11 colors in the CSS color scheme
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The naming is supposed to make sense for humans, not machines. Technically the "greenest green" from a technical POV is #00FF00, but the humans understanding of "green" is something more like #008000.
> the humans understanding of "green" is something more like #008000 That claim feels wrong. Colours are a concept on the level of the culture, not on the level of the species.