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Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by jrockway »

wiether wrote: post #9

Z2 sessions are supposed to be boring, they force you to endure the mental pain of not feeling physical pain when doing something dull. They also train you to listen to your body. Doing something else while in a Z2 session is going to kill those Z2 gains. And overall, being bored is great for the mind, help with creativity, problem solving... Once you embrace Z2 sessions, they became some sort of meditation, with the…

I just do the Z2 sessions to convert carbohydrates and fats into heat. I don't really need mental toughness for anything.

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by adbge »

seadan83 wrote: post #19
sailfast wrote: post #4

I love Zwifting, but the idea of riding in that position while also trying to concentrate seems really stressful :) Maybe on a hybrid I could look at my monitor while typing, but that seating position makes things quite hard. Good on ya for trying though! Allez!

I hooked up a shelf over the handlebars of an indoor trainer. With regards to stressful, I found anytime I had to concentrate on something - the pedaling would drop off. The cycling while computing was best for movies or video games (particularly RPG's being the best)

Yeah, I've found the same problem (with a standing desk): as soon as I need to concentrate I stop maintaining my cadence. Maybe it's something I could train myself out of but I haven't been worried about it; cycling is my "productive" thing, I don't need to double it.

So far I've just been using the (open source!) app Auuki to drive my smart trainer while I stream television. Works great on NixOS. https://auuki.com/

I am curious to hear about what games people are playing while cycling (other than Zwift, of course.)

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by eric-hu »

bharrison wrote: post #15
wiether wrote: post #9

Z2 sessions are supposed to be boring, they force you to endure the mental pain of not feeling physical pain when doing something dull. They also train you to listen to your body. Doing something else while in a Z2 session is going to kill those Z2 gains. And overall, being bored is great for the mind, help with creativity, problem solving... Once you embrace Z2 sessions, they became some sort of meditation, with the…

Personally I don't even start a 'ride' in Zwift for my Z2 rides for this very reason. I stare at the title screen and use my phone (connected via BT from an adjacent room so as not to be tempted to use it) to load the smart trainer. Finally I use fans, but as exhaust to create negative pressure that pulls as much O2 out of the room as possible. Next week plan is to start riding without bibs or a saddle so as to maxim…

This is satire right?

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by dr_kiszonka »

bharrison wrote: post #15
wiether wrote: post #9

Z2 sessions are supposed to be boring, they force you to endure the mental pain of not feeling physical pain when doing something dull. They also train you to listen to your body. Doing something else while in a Z2 session is going to kill those Z2 gains. And overall, being bored is great for the mind, help with creativity, problem solving... Once you embrace Z2 sessions, they became some sort of meditation, with the…

Personally I don't even start a 'ride' in Zwift for my Z2 rides for this very reason. I stare at the title screen and use my phone (connected via BT from an adjacent room so as not to be tempted to use it) to load the smart trainer. Finally I use fans, but as exhaust to create negative pressure that pulls as much O2 out of the room as possible. Next week plan is to start riding without bibs or a saddle so as to maxim…

Are you familiar with the Bike Spike Theft Deterrent?

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by dogmatism »

fucking Inigo San Milan and Peter Attia and their "zone 2" bullshit

this is nothing new. Back in the day, the teaching was "ride in the little ring in winter" which was essentially Zone 2

Plus San Milan is tainted by his Saunier Duval years, and Attia is clearly a grifter

Just fucking ride. Most of the time easy, once or twice a week hard

now get off my lawn!

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by shepting »

I'm guessing that using some clip-on aero bars would make a big difference. Then you're not using your hands to support any weight so the typing would be a little easier.

And if you're doing hours of Z2 training, you likely want to be getting more time in a position closer to what you'd be doing in the drops.

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by grakker »

muti wrote: post #2

A split kb with integrated trackball would help alleviate the awkward mousing situations, e.g. the charybdis [1]. I'm in a similar position having gone down the ergo split keyboard rabbit hole and vim everywhere, now building a charybdis myself 1. https://github.com/Bastardkb/Charybdis

warpd has helped me, as far as limiting annoying mouse use.

https://github.com/rvaiya/warpd

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by BubbleRings »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #6

Steve Roberts built a chording keyboard into the handlebars of his recumbent bike. Unclear how much writing he really got done while riding the behemoth Winnebiko II around, but it was definitely a key event that inspired me towards computing & ubiquitous computing, made me see adulting as possibly being cool. https://microship.com/winnebiko-ii/

I went looking for my copy of Computing Across America when I saw OP’s post, so I could post about it here, then I saw you beat me to it. A really nice guy, who I met when he stopped at the company I was working at, Chips and Technologies, back in the day, in San Jose. Steve if you see this, reply here and say hi to us!
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