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A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by carabiner »

wiether wrote: post #9

Z2 sessions are supposed to be boring, they force you to endure the mental pain of not feeling physical pain when doing something dull. They also train you to listen to your body. Doing something else while in a Z2 session is going to kill those Z2 gains. And overall, being bored is great for the mind, help with creativity, problem solving... Once you embrace Z2 sessions, they became some sort of meditation, with the…

lol what? Vitaliy recommends watching movies during Z2 stairmaster sessions (2-4 hours long). No athlete/trainer says they have to be boring. If you have access to mountains, doing a long Z2 hike in a beautiful area is totally beneficial.

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by loeg »

mcdow wrote: post #8

Super cool. One improvement: get a different bike saddle. One that doesn't put pressure on the perineum. There's evidence to suggest extended time spent in a bicycle saddle can cause ED.[1] 1. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S17436...

This should be a comfort driven decision. If you aren't having discomfort (including, e.g., genital numbness), there is not a lot of reason to switch. If you're having discomfort and pushing through the pain, that's a problem. OP never mentions saddle discomfort.

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Post by bharrison »

wiether wrote: post #9

Z2 sessions are supposed to be boring, they force you to endure the mental pain of not feeling physical pain when doing something dull. They also train you to listen to your body. Doing something else while in a Z2 session is going to kill those Z2 gains. And overall, being bored is great for the mind, help with creativity, problem solving... Once you embrace Z2 sessions, they became some sort of meditation, with the…

Personally I don't even start a 'ride' in Zwift for my Z2 rides for this very reason. I stare at the title screen and use my phone (connected via BT from an adjacent room so as not to be tempted to use it) to load the smart trainer. Finally I use fans, but as exhaust to create negative pressure that pulls as much O2 out of the room as possible.

Next week plan is to start riding without bibs or a saddle so as to maximize the anguish.

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by RistrettoMike »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #6

Steve Roberts built a chording keyboard into the handlebars of his recumbent bike. Unclear how much writing he really got done while riding the behemoth Winnebiko II around, but it was definitely a key event that inspired me towards computing & ubiquitous computing, made me see adulting as possibly being cool. https://microship.com/winnebiko-ii/

Always glad to see someone reference Steve & his computing escapades!

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by marinhero »

wiether wrote: post #9

Z2 sessions are supposed to be boring, they force you to endure the mental pain of not feeling physical pain when doing something dull. They also train you to listen to your body. Doing something else while in a Z2 session is going to kill those Z2 gains. And overall, being bored is great for the mind, help with creativity, problem solving... Once you embrace Z2 sessions, they became some sort of meditation, with the…

This sounds like bro science. Having boring sessions is not the point, Z2 training is designed to build endurance, improve cardiovascular efficiency, and increase your body's ability to burn fat as a fuel source at moderate intensities. It’s not about enduring boredom or embracing “mental pain” but rather about consistently training at a level that is sustainable for extended periods.

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by Separo »

I’m on Zwift a lot with the Zwift Ride and Wahoo Kickr core. But I’m looking for a recumbent setup so that I can also work while riding or game on the ps5 in a more comfy position. For keyboard I have the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard which is perfect since it has a mouse layer built in. Haven’t figured out the recumbent setup yet though. Any tips appreciated. I’m in the EU.

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by seadan83 »

sailfast wrote: post #4

I love Zwifting, but the idea of riding in that position while also trying to concentrate seems really stressful :) Maybe on a hybrid I could look at my monitor while typing, but that seating position makes things quite hard. Good on ya for trying though! Allez!

I hooked up a shelf over the handlebars of an indoor trainer. With regards to stressful, I found anytime I had to concentrate on something - the pedaling would drop off. The cycling while computing was best for movies or video games (particularly RPG's being the best)

Re: A cycling desk / Zwifting with a split keyboard

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Post by mech422 »

muti wrote: post #2

A split kb with integrated trackball would help alleviate the awkward mousing situations, e.g. the charybdis [1]. I'm in a similar position having gone down the ergo split keyboard rabbit hole and vim everywhere, now building a charybdis myself 1. https://github.com/Bastardkb/Charybdis

Dactyls look interesting too (1). Personally, I'm thinking an 'electric eraser' mounted as a thumb stick would be good too.

1. https://github.com/trentrand/ergonomic-keyboard

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