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Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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this isn't Hades II. the media still pauses.

On mainline youtube, for now at least. Just look at how unusable youtube shorts are. Want to rewind? Too bad for you.

Just add YouTube Shorts redirect to your browser. It's still available as regular videos.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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>So the net result of taking media away from legacy industries and handing it over to tech is (1) unskippable ads, (2) surveillance, (3) censorship and revocation of media you don't physically own, and now (4) unpausable media. No. First, legacy industries didn't have media "taken away" from them. They simply refused to adapt to new technology quickly enough, so new media (WWW) became popular, which replaced the old…

I'm glad prevalent behavior is to not use ad blockers. It turns watching ads a tax on ignorance, and lets that usage fly under the radar.

This is an understandable position, and probably explains why ad-blockers have been tolerated for so long, however it seems it isn't working so well any more because the media giants have been pouring a lot of resources in recent years into defeating ad-blockers. Many websites will refuse to load the page until you turn off the ad-blocker (of course it's an arms race, as the ad-blockers will figure out how to block this ad-block detection), YouTube is apparently working very hard at defeating ad-blocking (with varied results so far), etc. So it seems that ad-blockers have gotten popular enough that these companies believe they're "losing" too much money (i.e., not getting money they think they should) to ad-blocking and are stepping up efforts to fight back.

Of course, the worse they make the ads, the more people turn to ad-blockers. Back when ads were new, no one really cared much about a banner ad here or there. But then the advertisers came up with pop-up ads, and users (rightfully) revolted, and tools to block these ads were devised, even building them directly into web browsers because these pop-ups were so awful. The same is happening now, I believe: YouTube ads weren't so annoying in the past, only showing at the video start, but now they inject 30-minute ads at random times, so more and more users are turning to blockers.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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I swapped to Revanced on mobile and a combo of UBO + sponsorblock on desktop after the most recent price increase. Definitely not regretting it after hearing this.

So, instead of canceling you subscription and using a competing service, you instead choose to... steal? Classy.

What competition? All the videos are on YouTube.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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So, instead of canceling you subscription and using a competing service, you instead choose to... steal? Classy.

More like cutting out the funnies from a newspaper and trashing the ads.

But you bought the news paper (or someone else did).

FYI I use revenced as well, it's just your argument doesn't sound very sane.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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This can be annoying if you want to pause the video to look closely at something.

"Genie, I wish that Youtube would practice customer-centric design to support customer needs and use-cases."

*poof* "It is done."

"Hey, this isn't what I wished for! This video experience is crap!"

"To them you are not the customer. You are a resource. Their customers are advertisers and they are happy with these changes."

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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On mainline youtube, for now at least. Just look at how unusable youtube shorts are. Want to rewind? Too bad for you.

Just add YouTube Shorts redirect to your browser. It's still available as regular videos.

I had no idea that was an option, thanks for the tip!

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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I'm glad prevalent behavior is to not use ad blockers. It turns watching ads a tax on ignorance, and lets that usage fly under the radar.

This is an understandable position, and probably explains why ad-blockers have been tolerated for so long, however it seems it isn't working so well any more because the media giants have been pouring a lot of resources in recent years into defeating ad-blockers. Many websites will refuse to load the page until you turn off the ad-blocker (of course it's an arms race, as the ad-blockers will figure out how to block t…

> YouTube is apparently working very hard at defeating ad-blocking (with varied results so far), etc.

They could embed the ad in the video stream. It would be a pita to circumvent. Essentially you'd need to record the video and fast skip the ads.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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On mainline youtube, for now at least. Just look at how unusable youtube shorts are. Want to rewind? Too bad for you.

I am ashamed to admit that, once or twice, I was curious enough to want to rewind an ad, but that does seem impossible. (Thankfully, commenting on them is impossible as well.)

That is somewhat strange since, if the ad was useful, you'd might wanna watch it again. In theory.

Like, there is no 'ad viewing history' either.

I guess the ad industry does not care about useful at all nowadays.

Older commercials was filled with stats, properties and arguments. Like a TV shop channel. Nowadays it mainly seems to be some Amazon sellers that try to convince you with that tactic.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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More like cutting out the funnies from a newspaper and trashing the ads.

But you bought the news paper (or someone else did). FYI I use revenced as well, it's just your argument doesn't sound very sane.

Newspapers are actually also financed by ads, the few dollars people pay don't cover for the production costs and journalism...
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