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YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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I swapped to Revanced on mobile and a combo of UBO + sponsorblock on desktop after the most recent price increase. Definitely not regretting it after hearing this.

So, instead of canceling you subscription and using a competing service, you instead choose to... steal? Classy.

More like cutting out the funnies from a newspaper and trashing the ads.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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YouTube 2030: the entire interface is a single button "I'm feeling lucky". You insert a coin and click the button, the screen starts changing rapidly a kaleidoscope of pictures until it randomly selects one. It's ad that you must watch before you can press the button again. When you press the button again, the whole process repeats and it again shows an ad. After many tries you score a win, finally: a video of some guy advertising something. The dopamine rush gives you energy for the next round of attempts. Eventually you run out of money, unable to remember what you'd watched that day. YouTube always wins, as the old wisdom says.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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So the net result of taking media away from legacy industries and handing it over to tech is (1) unskippable ads, (2) surveillance, (3) censorship and revocation of media you don't physically own, and now (4) unpausable media.

>So the net result of taking media away from legacy industries and handing it over to tech is (1) unskippable ads, (2) surveillance, (3) censorship and revocation of media you don't physically own, and now (4) unpausable media.

No. First, legacy industries didn't have media "taken away" from them. They simply refused to adapt to new technology quickly enough, so new media (WWW) became popular, which replaced the old media the legacy industries were working with (newsprint, OTA TV).

1. a. You can skip ads using an ad-blocker. They work extremely well. Lots of people refuse to educate themselves about them, and even when their tech-savvy friend shows it to them or even installs one for them, they don't use it.

1. b. The legacy industries didn't let you skip ads either: if you were reading a newspaper, the ad was right there next to the text. If you were watching TV, you had to sit through commercials (which were generally timed to appear at the same time on all stations, so you couldn't change channels to avoid them). DVRs didn't come about until much later.

3. "censorship": Legacy industries only printed or aired stuff they wanted you to see, and since there were only a small handful of choices, that wasn't much.

revocation: the tech companies haven't taken anything away. You can still buy CDs and Blu-Rays, but people choose to subscribe to streaming services instead. Also, you can download anything you want from YouTube with yt-dlp.

4. This isn't unpausable, they just show ads during pauses (if you refuse to use an ad-blocker).

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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this isn't Hades II. the media still pauses.

On mainline youtube, for now at least. Just look at how unusable youtube shorts are. Want to rewind? Too bad for you.

Never understood the appeal of "take as much control from user as possible" for shorts. Maybe I wouldnt actively hate it if it allowed basic playback control, but for some reason Youtube thinks thats not cool anymore.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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this isn't Hades II. the media still pauses.

On mainline youtube, for now at least. Just look at how unusable youtube shorts are. Want to rewind? Too bad for you.

If you want to go back on YouTube Shorts you just pause the short and swipe at the bottom (on mobile) and on desktop you don’t even have to pause first, you can just hover the scrubber and drag it around.

This did used to suck, but it’s been more a case of the YouTube Shorts player being very behind TikTok and the regular YouTube player and they’ve only slowly made changes. I would argue they took too long to make these QoL improvements, but they did make them.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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post #3

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this isn't Hades II. the media still pauses.

On mainline youtube, for now at least. Just look at how unusable youtube shorts are. Want to rewind? Too bad for you.

I am ashamed to admit that, once or twice, I was curious enough to want to rewind an ad, but that does seem impossible. (Thankfully, commenting on them is impossible as well.)

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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So the net result of taking media away from legacy industries and handing it over to tech is (1) unskippable ads, (2) surveillance, (3) censorship and revocation of media you don't physically own, and now (4) unpausable media.

>So the net result of taking media away from legacy industries and handing it over to tech is (1) unskippable ads, (2) surveillance, (3) censorship and revocation of media you don't physically own, and now (4) unpausable media. No. First, legacy industries didn't have media "taken away" from them. They simply refused to adapt to new technology quickly enough, so new media (WWW) became popular, which replaced the old…

I'm glad prevalent behavior is to not use ad blockers. It turns watching ads a tax on ignorance, and lets that usage fly under the radar.

Re: YouTube confirms your pause screen is now fair game for ads

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YouTube 2030: the entire interface is a single button "I'm feeling lucky". You insert a coin and click the button, the screen starts changing rapidly a kaleidoscope of pictures until it randomly selects one. It's ad that you must watch before you can press the button again. When you press the button again, the whole process repeats and it again shows an ad. After many tries you score a win, finally: a video of some g…

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