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Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by talldayo »

nerdjon wrote: post #19

For the most part I am fine with Safari, but I also can't say there is any browser that I actually like using. I feel like one of the biggest problems is, well what are the alternatives? I use Firefox on my PC but since that is primarily for gaming I don't really need the interconnectivity. On my Mac, iPhone, and iPad the way everything works together is just way too valuable. I wish it's memory didnt just keep inchi…

> On my Mac, iPhone, and iPad the way everything works together is just way too valuable.

I use KDE connect to get this functionality on Firefox/Chromium: https://kdeconnect.kde.org/

I'm sure you've probably had your ear talked-off hearing about this from an ex-Continuity user, so I really have little else to add. My laptop, desktop, phone and tablet all talk on the same network, and can send files and URLs over WiFi direct with a right-click context menu. After I started using Syncthing I never looked back at OneDrive or iCloud with a sense of regret. Synced media control via MPRIS, remote battery reporting and notification sync are the cherries on top. I call it, "The Freecosystem". You're all invited.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by whartung »

mh- wrote: post #9
rvnx wrote: post #5

More important: Stop losing authenticated sessions. Stop randomly corrupting the whole past cookie-jar for no reasons. Safari, just stop! This is crazy annoying.

I thought this was just me. It's so infrequent I never look into it, but it's maddening when it happens. And it's been happening for years. I usually realize it occurred by finding myself logged out of HN.

I'm not sure what it is about Safari, but it does not get along with StackExchange. It's been like this for ages.

Whenever I visit one of their sites, I am constantly having to click through the cookie banner. I don't know if its the "1 week cookie timeout" thing in Safari or what.

I don't know of any other site where I have this problem, but its chronic with StackExchange. And, corollary, whatever it is, SE obviously doesn't care enough to cooperate with it.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by dewey »

> You can earn our trust back, but only by stopping this relationship now and putting our privacy first.

I don't mind if Google is an option, but there should be an easy way to add third party search engines too (On top of the new modal where you can pick your default search engine in the EU at least).

For Kagi you have to install an extension just to overwrite that: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/getting-started/setting-default.h...

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by dijit »

concinds wrote: post #18
dijit wrote: post #8

So, performance hasn't kept up and you don’t like the extension ecosystem? Performance I understand, its hard to compete with v8 and JS is pumped down our pipes in ever-growing amounts. Extensions are poor, truly, with this I agree. But extensions are also a huge reason that people consider browsers to be unperformant (hilariously, based on my previous statement). I can understand the Safari team being less than exci…

Safari + AdGuard (with the extension enabled) is much slower than Chrome/Firefox + uBlock Origin though

I’m not sure that this is incompatible with the idea that the JS engine is just slower than v8.

Extensions are basically just injected javascript, right?

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by talldayo »

dijit wrote: post #16
5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #11

safari dev tools suck ass. and they have done for at least 5 years if not more. i'd say they've gotten worse even. and expecting me to create an Apple ID and then download 30GB of xcode crap just to port my 5kb chrome extension to safari. yea right.

Do you not need a google account to push to the chrome store? I’m not sure how it would work without such an account, and if you do then it seems like a weird hill to die on… surely you’d be expected to have one for another store. Is XCode really 30GB?!

> Is XCode really 30GB?!

It should be larger than that, if they're still forcing you to download all the simulator files you're never going to use.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by Nevermark »

tjoff wrote: post #2

Maybe be the change you want to see in the world and don't use/support the most closed ecosystem? The alternatives are not prefect, nothing is. But they are all more open and that is something we can build upon.

This is a generic response that often follows specific complaints about some small aspect of an ecosystem, that trivializes the significance of individuals' ecosystem choices.

The most likely reason people complain about something specific in an ecosystem, as apposed to the whole ecosystem, is ... because that is the level of problem they have.

Without a LOT more information, "move out of the country", "breakup" level advice is not much help.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by galad87 »

talldayo wrote: post #26
dijit wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not need a google account to push to the chrome store? I’m not sure how it would work without such an account, and if you do then it seems like a weird hill to die on… surely you’d be expected to have one for another store. Is XCode really 30GB?!

> Is XCode really 30GB?! It should be larger than that, if they're still forcing you to download all the simulator files you're never going to use.

It depends. The Xcode app is takes only ~6 GB on disk (it's compressed, and the next version will use even less disk space), and it contains the macOS SDK. The others SDK are optional, so it won't automatically install iOS simulators anymore.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by ellisv »

dijit wrote: post #16
5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #11

safari dev tools suck ass. and they have done for at least 5 years if not more. i'd say they've gotten worse even. and expecting me to create an Apple ID and then download 30GB of xcode crap just to port my 5kb chrome extension to safari. yea right.

Do you not need a google account to push to the chrome store? I’m not sure how it would work without such an account, and if you do then it seems like a weird hill to die on… surely you’d be expected to have one for another store. Is XCode really 30GB?!

It’s not just XCode but also all of the other tools and resources.
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