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Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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When I booked a long distance bus in Turkiye and in Azerbaijan, the interface showed me the gender of other people, and prevented me to sit next to someone of the opposite gender. There was also a special case for children. As far as I understand, this is required by law, so Flixbus and other companies had to implement this feature.

So, gender equality is seen as a moral right and is required by law in some countries, while the same is seen as a sin and is forbidden by law in others.

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> it said it opened 96 in-flight sexual assault cases in 2023. This seems a very low number; roughly on the same order as number of people who die in an air craft accident (that is: dozens or hundreds/year, rather than thousands or more). Total cases opened was 512 by the way: https://www.faa.gov/unruly

Are you saying they are underestimating the number? Or are you saying that the number isn’t high enough to warrant action? Your comment isn’t clear.

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Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Are you saying they are underestimating the number? Or are you saying that the number isn’t high enough to warrant action? Your comment isn’t clear.

I believe the first, they're saying that it's about as likely to report being sexually assaulted on a plane as to die in a plane crash, which seems extraordinarily unlikely to be true, and if it IS true, it implies that planes are already safe places, safer than most other environments you'll be in.

No, I just looked up how this number relates. Nothing more, nothing less. No assumptions or points to be made about anything. To what degree these numbers are reliably is not something I can reasonably judge.

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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What happens if no women were ok with sitting next to a man?

Then you may end up with the last seat only being available for people willing to sit next to a man. The odd man out can still share a three seat row with a woman if they sit in the window and aisle seats. But otherwise, apart from that last middle seat (or one of the seats in a two seat row) there shouldn't be any complications if all women spurned sitting next to men.

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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When I booked a long distance bus in Turkiye and in Azerbaijan, the interface showed me the gender of other people, and prevented me to sit next to someone of the opposite gender. There was also a special case for children. As far as I understand, this is required by law, so Flixbus and other companies had to implement this feature.

So, gender equality is seen as a moral right and is required by law in some countries, while the same is seen as a sin and is forbidden by law in others.

Equality doesn't mean that everything is equal.

If you are 6'5 heigh equality could mean that smaller people sit or stand in front of you.

For woman it doesn't mean they have to go to military but could.

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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When I booked a long distance bus in Turkiye and in Azerbaijan, the interface showed me the gender of other people, and prevented me to sit next to someone of the opposite gender. There was also a special case for children. As far as I understand, this is required by law, so Flixbus and other companies had to implement this feature.

I wonder how this will/would work with trans people. I hope it is done with suitable sensitivity and sensibility.

Trans people and trans right are such a US/EU and a few Asian countries issue and some say fad - they literally do not exist anywhere else as a matter of public policy or visibility.

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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I wonder how this will/would work with trans people. I hope it is done with suitable sensitivity and sensibility.

Trans people and trans right are such a US/EU and a few Asian countries issue and some say fad - they literally do not exist anywhere else as a matter of public policy or visibility.

You’re just downright uninformed then. See, e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathoey Perhaps you consider it a fad because increasing visibility in Western culture/resulting culture war pushback has just now brought it to your personal attention. Just because you haven’t personally noticed them doesn’t mean trans people haven’t existed for hundreds of years in different capacities all over the globe.

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Really? I'm guessing very much not, given the track record of Islamic countries on LGBTQ+ issues

It’s more complicated than that, for exactly Pakistan recognizes a third sex since years. It’s just rather shitty how they do it…

> It’s more complicated than that, for exactly Pakistan recognizes a third sex since years. It’s just rather shitty how they do it…

Hijra (transgender, intersex, or eunuch) are recognized, but live at the margins of society on the Indian subcontinent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia)#Social_stat...

Re: Indian airline gives female travelers option to choose seats next to women

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Given the tightness of airline seating and typical shoulder width for each gender, alternating male / female seating seems ideal space-wise.

This is what happens when you leave decisions with social consequences to engineers... they end up optimizing to strange anti-social characteristics at the cost of any sort of social reality.
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