No. We have shockingly little control over basic diseases and health issues. This de Gray character is just an attention whore.
Can we live 1000 years?
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Re: Can we live 1000 years?
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Imagine the implications for wealth, too. If the means of life extension is not hideously expensive, then anyone past a certain age with even the smallest bit of sense will be rich beyond the dreams of mortal men. Compound interest works. This would have interesting social ramifications. As it is, most states are organized such that the old are relatively rich, the young are relatively poor, and the young's income su…
If 20% of the population becomes mufti billionaires a billion will not buy what it used to. Compound interest works in large part because capital has value. As the world becomes rich the value of wealth will go down relative to the value of peoples effort. Basically over the extremely long term expected ROI should go down if people start living into extreme old age. Granted some people will always balance this out wi…
I don't know that wealth necessarily implies a lower return to capital. More people are wealthier worldwide right now than at any point in history -- the poorest American makes old European royalty like paupers. (Lives two to three times as long, too.) But what does the return on capital look like in 2008 versus 1408? It is much, much higher.
People, in aggregate, have trillions to invest right now. The market finds a way to deploy it. In a society marked by superabundance for a few, the market would presumably deploy capital towards projects with enormous ROIs and entrance requirements which stagger the imagination. (Think on a sci-fi scale, except with reasons to do it other than to sell sci-fi books. Less "colonize a new planet... because we can!", more "harness a star for energy".)
Re: Can we live 1000 years?
#23If extending lifespan from 30 years to 70 years was beneficial, and I believe it did, I don't see why extending it from 70 to 160 wouldn't be similarly beneficial.
Re: Can we live 1000 years?
#24Living a thousand years has some pretty interesting implications. - Things that seem safe will become dangerous. Small daily risks, such as crossing a red light, will have a much bigger chance of killing you. If you live 15 times as long the risk is 15 times as big. Expect to see people being insulated from the daily dangers of the world. - Our personal drive will diminish. If you want to do a startup (or whatever el…
Imagine the implications for wealth, too. If the means of life extension is not hideously expensive, then anyone past a certain age with even the smallest bit of sense will be rich beyond the dreams of mortal men. Compound interest works. This would have interesting social ramifications. As it is, most states are organized such that the old are relatively rich, the young are relatively poor, and the young's income su…
Consider investments in, e.g., a german bank in 1900. Today worth what? Over the past 1000 years, we've seen major epidemics that wiped out big chunks of the world (e.g., 95% of the population of the americas, 30% of eurasia), deranged dictators who confiscated wealth, revolutions and all sorts of total collapses of society.
Over 1000 years, the risk of losing everything becomes significant.
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#25?
First of all we would have not to kill the not yet born ones. This would be the very first step necessary.
The next step necessary would be not to help to kill the old ones.
Currently we have no real respect neither for the not born ones, nor for old ones.
In other words: currently we still (kind of) hate life.
Re: Can we live 1000 years?
#26The third world country's / developing country's. How would they get a piece of this?
I'm quite sure they wouldn't - or if so, it would be an order of magnitude below what the western world would have.
Already more than enough to go to war for, by the havenots.
And resources? Would we just ultimately end up allowing 1 child per 1k couples to try and stem the rampant population explosion and resultant resource drain?
Would we tackle extreme age with a longevity based tax on a log scale?
It's the little things that add up and kick us in the arse, because even though we could live 12 times longer, the human condition would not advance anywhere as much.
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#27so the question is. what happens at 1000 that kills us, and why aren't we solving that problem?
WTF didn't anyone see this coming? might as well just die now if it's all going to be the same...
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#28Living a thousand years has some pretty interesting implications. - Things that seem safe will become dangerous. Small daily risks, such as crossing a red light, will have a much bigger chance of killing you. If you live 15 times as long the risk is 15 times as big. Expect to see people being insulated from the daily dangers of the world. - Our personal drive will diminish. If you want to do a startup (or whatever el…
Work is not an end in itself; there must always be time enough for love.
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#29Living a thousand years has some pretty interesting implications. - Things that seem safe will become dangerous. Small daily risks, such as crossing a red light, will have a much bigger chance of killing you. If you live 15 times as long the risk is 15 times as big. Expect to see people being insulated from the daily dangers of the world. - Our personal drive will diminish. If you want to do a startup (or whatever el…
The Man from Earth http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/
I loved that movie, wish more movies like it were made.
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