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Re: Ask HN: Why aren't there more hearing aid startups?

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It doesn't even need to be a startup: hearing aids are techically inferior to mid-range earbuds, yet cost more than 10x more. I'm guessing it's a certification+distribution issue, like for smartphones in the US. I've heard Bose has something in test though ?

It’s not quite the same, many people with hearing loss only lose hearing on part of the spectrum, so it’s not just about making things louder, it’s about making the specific frequencies louder in ratio to the loudness of the noise.

It’s not only that, the hearing loss may be very different in each ear. I don’t need a hearing aid for my left ear. If I lie with my left ear on a pillow, I will hear almost nothing. My yappy ankle biter dog a 3ft is audible. This means that if I use an OK headset, shift the balance as far right as possible while keeping the left speaker on, then turn my iPhone all the way up, I hear stereo at a comfortable but not loud level. Surely that amplifies some frequencies way higher than they should be amplified.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't there more hearing aid startups?

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any market that doesn't have the equivalent of the FDA probably has very little money in it.

Not that I'm particularly knowledgable on the subject but I find this a little hard to believe. I'd expect any first-world country around the world to have a reasonable demand and means to afford a product of this nature. The US obviously isn't the only country with access to 21st century medical devices of this sort?

And they have regulatory agencies.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't there more hearing aid startups?

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Cost of entry is immense. As with anything medical or food and drug related, there are large (and expensive) obstacles to hurdle before any product can enter the market. It's a rather difficult market to get into without a large amount of capital at your disposal.

> Cost of entry is immense. As with anything medical or food and drug related, there are large (and expensive) obstacles to hurdle before any product can enter the market. What about not using the US as the launch market?

Mexico and Australia are the two markets I've heard to start with for healthcare devices. The US market shouldn't be your first for that.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't there more hearing aid startups?

#25
Most startups are not technical problems. Hearing aids are no different.

There is a stigma with hearing aids. You have to get over both the internal ego and the external stigma. For many people, that means admitting they're aging and "need help".

Frankly, it really doesn't matter how amazing the hardware is. That's just an incredibly challenging problem to overcome.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't there more hearing aid startups?

#26

It doesn't even need to be a startup: hearing aids are techically inferior to mid-range earbuds, yet cost more than 10x more. I'm guessing it's a certification+distribution issue, like for smartphones in the US. I've heard Bose has something in test though ?

It’s not quite the same, many people with hearing loss only lose hearing on part of the spectrum, so it’s not just about making things louder, it’s about making the specific frequencies louder in ratio to the loudness of the noise.

I am very ignorant about this, but couldn’t this be solved with a config where you specify “hearing loss at these frequencies at these levels” and then the headphones increase/decrease this frequencies in response? Obviously, there needs to be a standard, and hw that listens to the standard.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't there more hearing aid startups?

#27

Most startups are not technical problems. Hearing aids are no different. There is a stigma with hearing aids. You have to get over both the internal ego and the external stigma. For many people, that means admitting they're aging and "need help". Frankly, it really doesn't matter how amazing the hardware is. That's just an incredibly challenging problem to overcome.

The one person in my family with these issues is quite the opposite. "I don't care if the aid is visible, I don't care if I have to charge it daily, I just want to hear properly."

The example they cite is people with vision problem. Very few people hide their glasses. If anything, at this point, glasses are often considered as enhancing a person's beauty.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't there more hearing aid startups?

#28

Most startups are not technical problems. Hearing aids are no different. There is a stigma with hearing aids. You have to get over both the internal ego and the external stigma. For many people, that means admitting they're aging and "need help". Frankly, it really doesn't matter how amazing the hardware is. That's just an incredibly challenging problem to overcome.

Nobody cares when I wear AirPods all over the place, they actually (almost) work like hearing aids and definitely could with some software tweaks alone, even more so with minor hardware tweaks.

Get somebody to design hearing aids that are meant to be noticed instead of badly hidden.

Re: Ask HN: Why aren't there more hearing aid startups?

#30

Cost of entry is immense. As with anything medical or food and drug related, there are large (and expensive) obstacles to hurdle before any product can enter the market. It's a rather difficult market to get into without a large amount of capital at your disposal.

You can presumably now sell OTC hearing aids in the US. Also, I see quite a few kickstarters/indigostarters in this space [1]. So it isn't that difficult.

[1] https://www.indiegogo.com/explore/tech-innovation?project_ti...

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