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Is there evidence that Cruise is more dangerous than a human driver?
is it accepted as a standard by any professionals? Why or why not?
According to Cruise's X(Twitter) account [0], the suspension seems to be related to an incident in which a human driver hit-and-run propelled a pedestrian in front of a Cruise AV and the Cruise vehicle couldn't avoid hitting the person. When that incident was first reported [1], it seemed like a situation where if it was a human driver in the Cruise vehicle, they wouldn't be found to be at any fault. However given th…
It's not hard to imagine that it's simply unequipped to know something like that, and it does seem fair to require that it become so equipped.
Huge supporter of autonomous cars, still feel like this is completely reasonable to require a solution for.
According to Cruise's X(Twitter) account [0], the suspension seems to be related to an incident in which a human driver hit-and-run propelled a pedestrian in front of a Cruise AV and the Cruise vehicle couldn't avoid hitting the person. When that incident was first reported [1], it seemed like a situation where if it was a human driver in the Cruise vehicle, they wouldn't be found to be at any fault. However given th…
The article you link to says there was more to it! The Cruise vehicle, after running over the woman, stopped on top of her with the rear axle/tires pinning her to the ground, trapping her there. And it just... sat there. I hesitate to believe that a human driver would do something like that. You could, however, argue that staying in place was the right thing to do; continuing to drive to get the woman out from under…
It's highly situation specific, and I'd expect the emergency personal to make the judgement call on how to free the person (potentially by taking control of the vehicle, or other means).
According to Cruise's X(Twitter) account [0], the suspension seems to be related to an incident in which a human driver hit-and-run propelled a pedestrian in front of a Cruise AV and the Cruise vehicle couldn't avoid hitting the person. When that incident was first reported [1], it seemed like a situation where if it was a human driver in the Cruise vehicle, they wouldn't be found to be at any fault. However given th…
The article you link to says there was more to it! The Cruise vehicle, after running over the woman, stopped on top of her with the rear axle/tires pinning her to the ground, trapping her there. And it just... sat there. I hesitate to believe that a human driver would do something like that. You could, however, argue that staying in place was the right thing to do; continuing to drive to get the woman out from under…
They do! https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2015/09/why-drivers-in-c...
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If by "not allowed" you actually mean, "implements safety protocols so easy to circumvent that they may as well not exist", then I agree. Otherwise... not so much.
I have not seen any easy way to get a tesla to drive without anyone in it. Any chance you could provide a link showing this?
Is there evidence that Cruise is more dangerous than a human driver?
“A highly-skilled and attentive human driver” is a reasonable standard. So-called autonomous vehicles are nowhere near that.
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If by "not allowed" you actually mean, "implements safety protocols so easy to circumvent that they may as well not exist", then I agree. Otherwise... not so much.
I have not seen any easy way to get a tesla to drive without anyone in it. Any chance you could provide a link showing this?
And yet TSLA is allowed to have “Full Self Driving” on the road in hundreds of thousands of cars as a “beta”.
I understand why so many people hate Tesla, but they aren't allowed to drive fully automated without a human monitoring them, so not the same situation.
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The article you link to says there was more to it! The Cruise vehicle, after running over the woman, stopped on top of her with the rear axle/tires pinning her to the ground, trapping her there. And it just... sat there. I hesitate to believe that a human driver would do something like that. You could, however, argue that staying in place was the right thing to do; continuing to drive to get the woman out from under…
This is such a wild edge case though. So we think the vehicle should do what, keep driving, potentially causing more damage? It's highly situation specific, and I'd expect the emergency personal to make the judgement call on how to free the person (potentially by taking control of the vehicle, or other means).
(I have my comments appear on a several minute delay because I know I sometimes submit a comment before I've made sure my intent was clear, but I maybe I took too long this time. It's a bad habit, and I know I should slow down, but... yeah.)