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And yet TSLA is allowed to have “Full Self Driving” on the road in hundreds of thousands of cars as a “beta”.
And yet TSLA is allowed to have “Full Self Driving” on the road in hundreds of thousands of cars as a “beta”.
I understand why so many people hate Tesla, but they aren't allowed to drive fully automated without a human monitoring them, so not the same situation.
Otherwise... not so much.
According to Cruise's X(Twitter) account [0], the suspension seems to be related to an incident in which a human driver hit-and-run propelled a pedestrian in front of a Cruise AV and the Cruise vehicle couldn't avoid hitting the person. When that incident was first reported [1], it seemed like a situation where if it was a human driver in the Cruise vehicle, they wouldn't be found to be at any fault. However given th…
You could, however, argue that staying in place was the right thing to do; continuing to drive to get the woman out from under the car may have injured her further. A follow-up article[0] suggests just that, and emergency crews ended up lifting the car off of her instead of trying to tow it.
If this is indeed why their permit was suspended, it seems like a questionable reason. Some of the other dumb things Cruise cars have done seem much more obviously egregiously bad. But in this case the crash may have been unavoidable (by human or robot), and avoiding injuring her further by not unpinning her may have been the right move.
[0] https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/cruise-driverless-tax...
According to Cruise's X(Twitter) account [0], the suspension seems to be related to an incident in which a human driver hit-and-run propelled a pedestrian in front of a Cruise AV and the Cruise vehicle couldn't avoid hitting the person. When that incident was first reported [1], it seemed like a situation where if it was a human driver in the Cruise vehicle, they wouldn't be found to be at any fault. However given th…
We should be suspending all bad driver’s licenses, AI and human alike. Today we give people passes for crashing while driving badly, and we should not.
According to Cruise's X(Twitter) account [0], the suspension seems to be related to an incident in which a human driver hit-and-run propelled a pedestrian in front of a Cruise AV and the Cruise vehicle couldn't avoid hitting the person. When that incident was first reported [1], it seemed like a situation where if it was a human driver in the Cruise vehicle, they wouldn't be found to be at any fault. However given th…
"When the AV tried to pull over, it continued before coming to a final stop, pulling the pedestrian forward," the company said.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand why so many people hate Tesla, but they aren't allowed to drive fully automated without a human monitoring them, so not the same situation.
If by "not allowed" you actually mean, "implements safety protocols so easy to circumvent that they may as well not exist", then I agree. Otherwise... not so much.
Is there evidence that Cruise is more dangerous than a human driver?
According to Cruise's X(Twitter) account [0], the suspension seems to be related to an incident in which a human driver hit-and-run propelled a pedestrian in front of a Cruise AV and the Cruise vehicle couldn't avoid hitting the person. When that incident was first reported [1], it seemed like a situation where if it was a human driver in the Cruise vehicle, they wouldn't be found to be at any fault. However given th…
This poor woman was involved in two accidents really, and it is fair to shut down Cruise until they address this failure scenario of driving on top of a victim in road.
The first picture in the SF Chronicle article is harrowing: https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/34/54/62/24300697/3/1100x0.jpg
According to Cruise's X(Twitter) account [0], the suspension seems to be related to an incident in which a human driver hit-and-run propelled a pedestrian in front of a Cruise AV and the Cruise vehicle couldn't avoid hitting the person. When that incident was first reported [1], it seemed like a situation where if it was a human driver in the Cruise vehicle, they wouldn't be found to be at any fault. However given th…
While not impossible, it's hard to imagine a human-driver scenario that would look quite like that, regardless of how legal accountability might resolve. Would a human driver stop their vehicle on top of the person they just struck? Would they then ignore the person they'd trapped and wait for a bystander to intervene?
I'm not suggesting that this scenario necessarily warrants the suspension, or that most of the same problems might not occur in some human-driver scenario, but it points to some of the subtle differences of human vs automated drivers that come up in exceptional situations. There are a lot of exceptional situations when driving and it very much matters how automated processes navigate them.
[0]I can see myself not agreeing with the conclusions, but to not even see the question broached in these terms is maddening.
