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Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suggest using an XMPP-based service, and then using a client like Pidgin with an Off The Record (OTR) plugin.

OTR has nothing to do with encryption. All it says is "pretty please don't save my conversation." The only way for fully encrypted conversations is to use a plugin that encrypts messages themselves, or use an ecrypted P2P IM network.

What are you on about? OTR is pretty robust encryption.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

#22
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OTR has nothing to do with encryption. All it says is "pretty please don't save my conversation." The only way for fully encrypted conversations is to use a plugin that encrypts messages themselves, or use an ecrypted P2P IM network.

OTR is all about encryption, it is a plugin which encrypts the messages themselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging

I think the GP was thinking of Google Talk's feature to disable logging, which is also called 'off the record'.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

#23
While I'd be willing to bet this is due to some malware flag (as that pretty much always ends up being the case with IM provider X is censoring Y), I am baffled as to why people would consider it scandalous that a multi-billion dollar company who makes pretty much all of its revenue from selling intellectual property licenses might drop links conveyed using its free service to a site that is unabashedly one of the world's foremost facilitators of intellectual property rights violations.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

#24
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suggest using an XMPP-based service, and then using a client like Pidgin with an Off The Record (OTR) plugin.

OTR has nothing to do with encryption. All it says is "pretty please don't save my conversation." The only way for fully encrypted conversations is to use a plugin that encrypts messages themselves, or use an ecrypted P2P IM network.

http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/ the OTR protocol mentioned in the parent does provide encryption.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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post #16
post #4

So, what's the most convenient way to IM with end-to-end encryption? I don't like the idea of it being possible for an intermediate to scan through my private messages.

Possibly Skype? It does have end to end encryption but this is hard to validate independently.

Skype is owned by Microsoft.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

#26
post #9

I wonder what the political forces behind this are, because I'd like to think that the engineers that implemented it understood that a) it will do nothing to stop piracy, and b) it will reduce usage of Live Messenger

To be fair, there is a lot of malware masquerading as The Lion King.torrent. They may not care about the piracy aspect; they may just want their users to have less malware on their computers, especially since Windows machines seem to be a prime target for botnets.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

#27

I'm a regular WLM user and this has been happening for years, I've seen innocuous links to small websites blocked too. It's rare that links are blocked but I wouldn't be so quick to suggest this is intentional on the part of Microsoft. The frequency at which a new URL is being shared could have triggered some sort of automatic blocking system because it's assumed to be a worm? > Apparently, the company is actively mo…

This has been reported for at least 2 weeks. Surely, they found out about it by now?

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

#28
post #13
post #10

Facebook does this as well. (Or at least, they did until The Pirate Bay changed it's TLD to `.se`) You could argue that it's for the user's security. Torrent sites do have a lot of sketchy cruft.

> You could argue that it's for the user's security Who would believe that argument?

People who frequently have to clean out their parents' computers because they wanted to watch something, and ended up joining a botnet.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

#29
post #4

So, what's the most convenient way to IM with end-to-end encryption? I don't like the idea of it being possible for an intermediate to scan through my private messages.

Retroshare, I believe:

http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

#30
post #9

I wonder what the political forces behind this are, because I'd like to think that the engineers that implemented it understood that a) it will do nothing to stop piracy, and b) it will reduce usage of Live Messenger

To be fair, there is a lot of malware masquerading as The Lion King.torrent. They may not care about the piracy aspect; they may just want their users to have less malware on their computers, especially since Windows machines seem to be a prime target for botnets.

The comment section always have people informing if it is malware or not, besides; in that line of logic they would have to censor all file hosting services (those don't even have comment section)
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