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Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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Facebook does this as well. (Or at least, they did until The Pirate Bay changed it's TLD to `.se`) You could argue that it's for the user's security. Torrent sites do have a lot of sketchy cruft.

You could argue it is to appease advertisers.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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post #4

So, what's the most convenient way to IM with end-to-end encryption? I don't like the idea of it being possible for an intermediate to scan through my private messages.

Messages in OS X Mountain Lion will support end-to-end encryption by default (for messages sent through iMessage)[1].

[1] http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/features.html#mess...

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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post #10

Facebook does this as well. (Or at least, they did until The Pirate Bay changed it's TLD to `.se`) You could argue that it's for the user's security. Torrent sites do have a lot of sketchy cruft.

> You could argue that it's for the user's security

Who would believe that argument?

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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post #4

So, what's the most convenient way to IM with end-to-end encryption? I don't like the idea of it being possible for an intermediate to scan through my private messages.

There is a plugin for pidgin that will allow you to send encrypted messages. Though it requires that both parties have installed it.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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We'll be seeing a lot more of this in the next couple of years. The RIAA and the MPAA will get more and more desperate and will call in more favors with industry buddies as they get closer to the recognition that they are losing the war in spite of winning a couple of battles.

In the Netherlands 'Brein', one of the rights organizations has done more to promote the pirate bay than the pirate bay ever could have hoped to achieve by themselves.

This is the biggest case of disruption that I've witnessed in my life so far and even though the outcome seems all but certain it remains to be seen how much damage the wounded bear will be able to inflict before finally keeling over.

edit:

This prompted me to post a thing I wrote a while ago but didn't publish: http://jacquesmattheij.com/The+death+throes+of+an+industry

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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post #4

So, what's the most convenient way to IM with end-to-end encryption? I don't like the idea of it being possible for an intermediate to scan through my private messages.

Possibly Skype? It does have end to end encryption but this is hard to validate independently.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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post #8
post #4

So, what's the most convenient way to IM with end-to-end encryption? I don't like the idea of it being possible for an intermediate to scan through my private messages.

I would suggest using an XMPP-based service, and then using a client like Pidgin with an Off The Record (OTR) plugin.

OTR has nothing to do with encryption. All it says is "pretty please don't save my conversation."

The only way for fully encrypted conversations is to use a plugin that encrypts messages themselves, or use an ecrypted P2P IM network.

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would suggest using an XMPP-based service, and then using a client like Pidgin with an Off The Record (OTR) plugin.

OTR has nothing to do with encryption. All it says is "pretty please don't save my conversation." The only way for fully encrypted conversations is to use a plugin that encrypts messages themselves, or use an ecrypted P2P IM network.

OTR is all about encryption, it is a plugin which encrypts the messages themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging

Re: Microsoft Censors Pirate Bay Links in Windows Live Messenger

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As more and more of this surface in critical times of SOPA/PIPA/ACTA etc. we will see an "outer net" emerging soon based on a p2p solution and highly encrypted. I know there is TOR but it`s not cutting it yet.

Maybe one of the big players (Google?) will join this battle for free speech and an open internet. Most of us do not want to be censored in any way.

The Unstoppable Force vs The Immovable Object.

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