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Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Post by rightbyte »

jimmytucson wrote: post #4

The part I struggle with is, how do I let my kids program and be creative on the computer without being online when daddy can’t program without an internet connection? How will they develop “street smarts” about being on social media without a social media account? How do I let them have the same positive experiences I had playing games without having the deeply negative ones too (I lost that breastplate that took we…

Becoming "street smart" in no way out weights the risks of becoming it. I see it as a cope rationalization.

Like, roaming around Chicago as a 15yo. What do you learn the hard way that a 25yo does not understand by default.

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Post by karaterobot »

dubeye wrote: post #19

Easy enough when you have a manager for your nannies

People have been raising kids without devices for a long time. They've even been telling kids they can't have what they want. Kids have even survived not having consumer device parity with their peers, if you can believe that. They did fine for quite a while, inventing things like every great work of art, the Pythagorean theorum, airplanes... heck, even the iPad! There's no real reason it couldn't be done today, it just isn't.

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Post by spondylosaurus »

jcutrell wrote: post #5

I don’t think we should look at these people as the paragon of parenting. It’s easy to imagine that every decision they made is some blessed path, but that’s just a halo effect. It’s easy to engage in some magical thinking about Jobs or Gates as if they know something distantly ominous about screens that told them to ban their kids from them, that they kept secret from the public in order to sell the screens. I don’t…

Jobs and Gates also are(/were) extremely wealthy, which has to be a factor here. If you can afford to pay someone for in-home childcare 30+ hours a week, it's a lot easier to avoid the temptation of parking your kid in front of a screen for a few hours to give you time to eat breakfast and do laundry and take a quick breather.

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Post by iampims »

rightbyte wrote: post #21
jimmytucson wrote: post #4

The part I struggle with is, how do I let my kids program and be creative on the computer without being online when daddy can’t program without an internet connection? How will they develop “street smarts” about being on social media without a social media account? How do I let them have the same positive experiences I had playing games without having the deeply negative ones too (I lost that breastplate that took we…

Becoming "street smart" in no way out weights the risks of becoming it. I see it as a cope rationalization. Like, roaming around Chicago as a 15yo. What do you learn the hard way that a 25yo does not understand by default.

Life.

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Post by jejeyyy77 »

prmoustache wrote: post #10
jimmytucson wrote: post #4

The part I struggle with is, how do I let my kids program and be creative on the computer without being online when daddy can’t program without an internet connection? How will they develop “street smarts” about being on social media without a social media account? How do I let them have the same positive experiences I had playing games without having the deeply negative ones too (I lost that breastplate that took we…

Anyone can program without an internet connection. You just need the local documentation.

not practical

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Post by hluska »

Wacky question but does anyone know if this is a paid placement? The last three paragraphs seem to be soliciting investors for some random company I haven’t heard of, but most media declares something is paid. It’s yahoo so nothing surprises me but between the obvious sales tone and the fact an article this low quality front paged has me feeling marketed to.

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Post by Buttons840 »

benreesman wrote: post #13

I started working on social media in 2006. I did it for a big name for most of the 2010s. It can be a good thing, it’s easier to make it a good thing. It’s expensive as hell to make a screen more destructive than narcotics, you need PhDs and server farms and shit for that. The problem is that software companies aren’t “allowed to mature”. Sometimes you tap out the market, you aren’t doing 20% next year without pushin…

How could we remove the temptation to squeeze every last dollar from a company, even if it crushes society in the process?

What if the market leader in an industry was taxed such that there was no incentive to make more money than the 2nd or 3rd place company in the market? This would encourage competition, and also remove many of the perverse incentives when a single company is dominant.

Re: Jobs and Gates banned their kids from iPads and other devices they created

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Post by zod50 »

> Gates and his then-wife Melinda took a decisive step by limiting screen time to 45 minutes for games, with an additional hour allowed on weekends. This was in addition to the time required for homework.

Bit of a misleading title. Not really banned, limited use, which should the case with consumption of any of these technologies anyways.

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