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Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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I wonder if kids are actually better at surviving than adults in those situations. Especially young babies, they are very chubby for a reason. We have to remember that although surviving 40 days without a parent is extreme, it’s probably pretty common in our history.

This man survived 26 years alone in the jungle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_of_the_Hole

The kids are indigenous and knew how to find food. Kids from the city would probably not be able to survive this long...

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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The youngest was actually an 11-months old baby that spent their first birthday in the jungle. On one hand I am surprised that they managed to take care of the baby for that long, on the other hand this is a comment from a Western man weakened by modern society while those are indigenous kids, with a keener instinct and knowledge of nature than we give them credit for. Put on a remote island, any of these kids will p…

If the weather isn't too harsh and there's enough water and fruit or plants around then it's actually less hard to survive than you might think (the tricky bit is knowing what is edible, but you've got about 2 weeks to experiment).

In the right conditions it's easier to survive than many assume. To be honest with statements like "their survival is a sign of a knowledge and relationship with the natural environment of life, which is learned from the mother’s womb and practiced from a very early age" I think there's a lot of "native fetishism" and woo-woo thinking going on here. In this case the kids apparently also ate food drops, and were malnourished when found.

I don't want to come of as too cynical or dismissive, because of course it's an amazing story! The real miracle is that they survived the plane crash at all, and the survival is more "amazing story" than "amazing miracle".

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your mean the crash or the wild life? I believe children are worse at both. On the other hand, they need to find less fruits to survive ... maybe adults need to eat to much to survive in improvised conditions? Like, it is way easier to find a small amount of fruits?

Also what is the starting point. An overweight or obese person who isn't doing lot of hard work during period and have enough water could probably survive a long time with just some supply of vitamins and nutrients.

Bobby Sands died after 66 days of hunger strike, and he was of average weight; others lasted about the same time (± a few days). You can survive for a long time without food if need be, but you also won't be able to do much once starvation kicks in.

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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I'm not surprised. Lord of the Flies was always a misanthropic fantasy fueled on Western dog eat dog-ideologies, our modern ideologies take this weird contemporary "kids are useless little fragile eggs" approach. Kids are neither as evil nor as helpless as our culture makes them. I think it was David Graeber (I'll have to go look for it)= who once recounted the story of islander children getting lost on a boat and wa…

I haven’t read it in forever, but I believe Lord of the Flies was intended to be some kind of allegory for society? It is absolutely not a literal prediction of what would or should happen to a group of children left on an island…

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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I'm not surprised. Lord of the Flies was always a misanthropic fantasy fueled on Western dog eat dog-ideologies, our modern ideologies take this weird contemporary "kids are useless little fragile eggs" approach. Kids are neither as evil nor as helpless as our culture makes them. I think it was David Graeber (I'll have to go look for it)= who once recounted the story of islander children getting lost on a boat and wa…

"our culture" ? there are 15 year old males with the size and muscles of adults, and their 14 year old girls starting to make babies.. Its not uncommon or stereotyping to say it, it is measurably true. You did not have to go to school with "kids" like that did you? Daily aggression is common, reading skills low, zero interest in math is common. The males that survive to adulthood can be grandfathers by 45 easily. I mean "I had five kids with three women, I never married any of them" says the 45 year self-described grandfather guy on the park bench with new shoes and a very relaxed attitude. That is his direct quote, I did not say that, he did.

Literate people live in a bubble and that is not "our" society either?

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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post #18

The youngest was actually an 11-months old baby that spent their first birthday in the jungle. On one hand I am surprised that they managed to take care of the baby for that long, on the other hand this is a comment from a Western man weakened by modern society while those are indigenous kids, with a keener instinct and knowledge of nature than we give them credit for. Put on a remote island, any of these kids will p…

A Colombian woman I know said her mother, who lived in the Amazon for a few years, had to learn what an anaconda smelled like, to avoid it. Because imagine trying to run away from something in the jungle.
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