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Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Post by rightbyte »

great_psy wrote: post #5

I wonder if kids are actually better at surviving than adults in those situations. Especially young babies, they are very chubby for a reason. We have to remember that although surviving 40 days without a parent is extreme, it’s probably pretty common in our history.

Your mean the crash or the wild life? I believe children are worse at both.

On the other hand, they need to find less fruits to survive ... maybe adults need to eat to much to survive in improvised conditions? Like, it is way easier to find a small amount of fruits?

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Post by 698969 »

dragonmost wrote: post #6
pfannkuchen wrote: post #4

What happened to children 2-3, 5-8 and 10-12?

I would guess there was none. A plane doesn't stock up on people by age. It could also be that they died in the crash like the adults did.. I prefer the former.

I think GP was making a joke implying those were numeric identifiers for the children rather than their age, and that the identifiers had to be sequential.

Kinda like https://www.hornfans.com/threads/the-ol-chickens-in-the-scho...

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Post by bigger_inside »

I'm not surprised. Lord of the Flies was always a misanthropic fantasy fueled on Western dog eat dog-ideologies, our modern ideologies take this weird contemporary "kids are useless little fragile eggs" approach. Kids are neither as evil nor as helpless as our culture makes them.

I think it was David Graeber (I'll have to go look for it)= who once recounted the story of islander children getting lost on a boat and washing up on the shore of a small island. They were there a few weeks. They found chickens and captured them, scavenged fruits, and even remembered from their families (islander, after all) how to do small farming. They were absolutely fine, without any dystopian violence to be found.

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Post by astrange »

bigger_inside wrote: post #13

I'm not surprised. Lord of the Flies was always a misanthropic fantasy fueled on Western dog eat dog-ideologies, our modern ideologies take this weird contemporary "kids are useless little fragile eggs" approach. Kids are neither as evil nor as helpless as our culture makes them. I think it was David Graeber (I'll have to go look for it)= who once recounted the story of islander children getting lost on a boat and wa…

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-...

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Post by bigger_inside »

astrange wrote: post #14
bigger_inside wrote: post #13

I'm not surprised. Lord of the Flies was always a misanthropic fantasy fueled on Western dog eat dog-ideologies, our modern ideologies take this weird contemporary "kids are useless little fragile eggs" approach. Kids are neither as evil nor as helpless as our culture makes them. I think it was David Graeber (I'll have to go look for it)= who once recounted the story of islander children getting lost on a boat and wa…

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-...

this is it! yes, thank you. 15 months, even.

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Post by Ekaros »

rightbyte wrote: post #11
great_psy wrote: post #5

I wonder if kids are actually better at surviving than adults in those situations. Especially young babies, they are very chubby for a reason. We have to remember that although surviving 40 days without a parent is extreme, it’s probably pretty common in our history.

Your mean the crash or the wild life? I believe children are worse at both. On the other hand, they need to find less fruits to survive ... maybe adults need to eat to much to survive in improvised conditions? Like, it is way easier to find a small amount of fruits?

Also what is the starting point. An overweight or obese person who isn't doing lot of hard work during period and have enough water could probably survive a long time with just some supply of vitamins and nutrients.

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Post by sph »

The youngest was actually an 11-months old baby that spent their first birthday in the jungle. On one hand I am surprised that they managed to take care of the baby for that long, on the other hand this is a comment from a Western man weakened by modern society while those are indigenous kids, with a keener instinct and knowledge of nature than we give them credit for.

Put on a remote island, any of these kids will probably survive longer than a fully grown man like me.

That said, I'm happy to know they have been found and can be returned to their families; reading their story made my day brighter. There is always so much doom and gloom on the news these days.

Here's a longer article with more detail and pictures from the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/10/colombian-chil...

Re: Children 13, 9, 4, and 1 found alive in jungle 40 days after plane crash

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

> They were eventually found about 3.5 kilometers, or 2.1 miles, from the site of the initial incident, according to the Colombian Air Force.

It’s crazy how dense and tricky the jungle is. The kids were around 2 miles from the crash and it took a massive search effort 40 days to find them.

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