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The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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The Anglicization is mos-cow. Using Cyrillic it's pronounced in neither of those two ways that you've written.

> The Anglicization is mos-cow. It's not. The anglicization is MOS-koh. MOS-kau is American. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow

It's also German ("Moskau") which I assume is where the American pronunciation comes from.

Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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I was a (semi-)competitive player two decades ago (Tekken 2, 3, TT) during the golden age of Tekken; for the uninitiated, the challenges are multiple layers: 1. The vocabulary of the game: there are two dozen or so characters, each with dozens of moves. Each move comes with its own attributes (e.g. hit points, latency). If you are anywhere near competitive, you need to memorize all of the moves and attributes, in the…

That's like the exact opposite of rocket league. There's an ex rocket league pro who made a video series about climbing to the top of the rank ladder while using the bare minimum mechanics, letting his mind games carry him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhoplG8Cm_A&list=PLaVDH5Sevb...

Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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Also Mos-co not Mos-cow :)

The Anglicization is mos-cow. Using Cyrillic it's pronounced in neither of those two ways that you've written.

Given that everyone and every country will pronounce it differently, the attempts at correcting the video creator's pronunciation of location names seems pretty futile.

Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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Similar thing happened with the fairy isolated Quake 3 scene in Russia. Back then the Swedes were the only LPBs (low ping bastards) so they kicked everyone's ass in online games. When it came to LAN, though, almost no one could deal with even mid tier guys emerging in the Russian scene.

Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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Also Mos-co not Mos-cow :)

Is that really true? In Russian it's Moskwa afaik so neither of those would sound correct anyway. In German it's Moskau, which sounds like Mos-cow.

The closest transliteration of the Russian pronunciation is probably Muskvah (with accent on the second syllable).

Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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The name of the province - it's pronounced pun-jab, not poon-jab. (pun intended)

Also Mos-co not Mos-cow :)

I think you’re fighting a losing battle here, mos-co will sound as wrong to an American as mos-cow sounds to us. I presume both US and UK both used “mos-co” originally, and the US broke away with the newer bovine pronunciation at some point. I’m curious why and when this happened though - maybe the advent of TV or Radio there were some prominent announcers who used that pronunciation and it stuck?

What puzzles me are the elongated “aw” some use in place names like Milan, Prague and Hamburg (“Milon”, “Prog”, “Homburg”) - because they’re not correct in either English or the local languages. I wonder if that came from the realisation that "France" uses that "aw" vowel sound in French, so the assumption is other European languages would be the same (i.e. it's a misguided attempt to be more correct)?

Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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Randomly seeing the wrestling god in this video as the interviewer took me a second to process. Kenny Omega isn't just a random wrestler, he is one of the most critically acclaimed and audience beloved wrestlers ever. This would be like having Tarantino host the Oscar red carpet.

Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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Well it works both ways though doesn’t it? The isolationist nature of Pakistan also means outside players have a hard time playing _them_ as well, and thus, something of a blind spot in their own skill set. Granting your point that having more exposure is better than less, maybe the Pakistani players have just developed some really keen play styles that work really well against the unadapted.

This is exactly what it was. As more people have began to adapt to the Pakistan meta, they are not as dominant. It was just a new skilled style that no one outside of Pakistan was aware of. You see similar things with Black players in the US. They are often isolated and hyper-competitive, and thus are over represented in the top tier based on population numbers. Edit: Interesting. Why was this downvoted? Any competit…

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Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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> The Anglicization is mos-cow. It's not. The anglicization is MOS-koh. MOS-kau is American. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPdn9_h2dCY

If this song is the reason Americans use "mos-cow" I am 100% here for it and will back any campaign to change the British pronunciation to match :)

Re: The Miracle of Pakistani Tekken (2022) [video]

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I am not into competitive gaming at all, but enjoyed this tremendously. Many possible reasons of the success are mentioned, but the one that caught my attention is how the arcades are getting paid: gamers only pay for the number of games lost , so gamers have a major incentive in getting better and winning, and everyone progresses since they compete with each other. Sounds brilliant on one hand, but I also wonder how…

> the one that caught my attention is how the arcades are getting paid: gamers only pay for the number of games lost,

But that does kind of mirror real-world arcade play. In single-player, you play on one credit until you lose (or beat the final boss).

For PvP multi-player, they do specifically mention "winner stays on" which I think is a pretty common form of play almost anywhere? You play against another person; whoever loses goes to the back of the queue, and the next challenger pays for the credit to play. The winner plays as many games against challengers as they can until they lose, at which point they go to the back of the queue. When it's their turn to challenge, they pay for the credit for that game. In that situation, again, you're basically paying for as many games as you lose (subject to off-by-one/rounding errors?)

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