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AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Yeah, I don't get it. It doesn't look very good to me. It is also obviously AI generated, with the telltale signs of deformed limbs and hands.

And I can tell the difference between tube amps, profilers and modellers in both feel and tone, but it's good enough for the average Joe that they won't care if they like the image or sound. It only serves to illustrate the point that trying to evaluate the best x work is futile because tastes vary.

Personally, I don't like the image, nor do I like any AI-generated "art" thus far. I'm a big camera wonk and a tone chaser, so I appreciate detail and that elusive quality that makes something more than just competent.

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do you draw the line between heavy editing and fully AI-generated? Some edits have little in common with the source, so at which point is the source not relevant anymore? What if you feed an original photo through some AI-enhanced tool like Topaz?

What if you use in-camera fx like lenses, filters, lighting etc? How puritanical is what we consider photography? Is it like the puritans of guitar rejecting digital then later embracing profilers and modellers?

And what about those cheaters who set up lights, or put makeup on models?

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

#24
His photo has been removed from the gallery, but here are the other finalists in the category he won. The category tends towards the abstract, so it's not super surprising that they'd confuse AI images with real ones.

https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards/win...

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

#25

I think it's an awful image personally.

I would be interested to see what it was competing against. I hadn't even heard of the award.

The AI image was competing in the Creative category of the Open category (as opposed to Professional). Official winners gallery is here:

https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards/win...

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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https://web.archive.org/web/20230325205601/https://www.eldag...

>“The work… is the result of a complex interplay of prompt engineering, inpainting and outpainting that draws on my wealth of photographic knowledge. For me, working with AI image generators is a co-creation, in which I am the director. It is not about pressing a button – and done it is. It is about exploring the complexity of this process, starting with refining text prompts, then developing a complex workflow, and mixing various platforms and techniques. The more you create such a workflow and define parameters, the higher your creative part becomes.”

The image is fairly derivative, and doesn’t demonstrate any traits of a well crafted generative image, nor does it show signs of the creator’s ability to draw in a topic, emotion or theme, other than ‘oooh spooky old photo’.

It also doesn’t show off their knowledge of photographic and ai technique like they claim. The scratches and effects look forced, and the hands and faces just look like classic ai.

It’s okay graphic design. He even goes on to say it’s not a photograph.

If this isn’t an April fool’s joke, then Sony have seriously tarnished the reputation of the award.

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

#27

"AI images and photography should not compete with eachother in an award like this. They are different entities. AI is not photography. Therefore I will not accept the award" That is, the author of this dirty trick knew this very well from the very beginning, but nevertheless he submitted to the competition not a real shot (which is a unique stopped flat moment of reality), but a synthetic picture of which he is not…

I disagree.

Too many people happily go along with the status quo, despite correctly recognizing something should be changed. It takes energy, courage, and sacrifice to create change. A body at rest will remain at rest unless acted up on by an outside force.

In this case, this author correctly recognized that its better to force the conversation now, himself, than let things play themselves out naturally.

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

#28
What's the difference between a photo I generated with AI vs , say, one I edited using Adobe's AI-driven toolkit?

This is a great debate and the right answer here for Sony (and everyone) is to have an open dialogue with creators and consider new sorts of categories and classifications so that we may revel in the spice of life – instead of letting it undermine/destroy the indefinable nature of art!

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be interested to see what it was competing against. I hadn't even heard of the award.

The AI image was competing in the Creative category of the Open category (as opposed to Professional). Official winners gallery is here: https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards/win...

Thanks!

The winner wouldn't have been my first pick against some of these. However, some have a "generated" quality to them, but that is probably the expectation of being fooled again, or heavy post.

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