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Public broadcasters want to reclaim online spaces with “Public Spaces Incubator”

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Re: Public broadcasters want to reclaim online spaces with “Public Spaces Incubator”

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Post by skipkey »

quink wrote: post #20
LarryMullins wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Non-government tax" is bullshit semantics. Any random organization cannot collect a tax unless a government has delegated special authority to that organization, thereby making that organization part of government. It's like saying "independent courts" aren't part of "the government" because the courts are "independent" and because elected politicians don't have the official authority to tell judges how cases should…

No it isn't. It means that the government doesn't control the funding (or lack of funding) for a public broadcaster. That's an important part of their independence. Also, it's not really a tax, it's a levy or fee.

What happens if someone doesn’t pay the fee?

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Post by version_five »

This is a joke. I don't know about the other broadcasters, but Canada's CBC is the propaganda organ of the liberal party and only allows an ultra-narrow ideological viewpoint. This will be the opposite of inclusive, it will just be a woke echo chamber.

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Post by [deleted] »

LarryMullins wrote: post #19
nicbou wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ZDF is not state-owned. It's an independent non-profit institution financed in part by the non-government TV tax.

"Non-government tax" is bullshit semantics. Any random organization cannot collect a tax unless a government has delegated special authority to that organization, thereby making that organization part of government. It's like saying "independent courts" aren't part of "the government" because the courts are "independent" and because elected politicians don't have the official authority to tell judges how cases should…

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Post by amadeuspagel »

uniqueuid wrote: post #15
amadeuspagel wrote: post #12

They'll study this forever, but they'll never add a comment section to their websites.

Wrong, ARD, the second largest German PSB has had a very lively comment section for ages [1]. Part of the reluctance in setting up comment sections in general is that media orgs are liable for postings there and manual moderation costs a lot of money, unless you outsource that to underpaid, traumatized semi-slaves as Facebook does. [1] https://meta.tagesschau.de/

> Wrong, ARD, the second largest German PSB has had a very lively comment section for ages.

These comments aren't even linked from the articles on the tagesschau.de website.

> Part of the reluctance in setting up comment sections in general is that media orgs are liable for postings there and manual moderation costs a lot of money.

Whatever makes media orgs reluctant to have a comment section (and to show it prominently) also applies to any other public space, so if they can't even handle that, there's no point in having initiatives to think about other public spaces.

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

version_five wrote: post #23

This is a joke. I don't know about the other broadcasters, but Canada's CBC is the propaganda organ of the liberal party and only allows an ultra-narrow ideological viewpoint. This will be the opposite of inclusive, it will just be a woke echo chamber.

It's big tent: everyone is free to come into their tent and think correctly. See, no one excluded!

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Post by logicalmonster »

> free from harassment or bullying

Hope springs eternal, but color me skeptical that any speech that is inconvenient to those with authority doesn't instantly get labelled as cyberbullying and shut down.

The only way to guarantee freedom of speech is to acknowledge that some people are going to get their knickers in a twist when they see some of the comments, and there's nothing that can be done about that.

Re: Public broadcasters want to reclaim online spaces with “Public Spaces Incubator”

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

quink wrote: post #20
LarryMullins wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Non-government tax" is bullshit semantics. Any random organization cannot collect a tax unless a government has delegated special authority to that organization, thereby making that organization part of government. It's like saying "independent courts" aren't part of "the government" because the courts are "independent" and because elected politicians don't have the official authority to tell judges how cases should…

No it isn't. It means that the government doesn't control the funding (or lack of funding) for a public broadcaster. That's an important part of their independence. Also, it's not really a tax, it's a levy or fee.

No, that absolutely is a tax.

Re: Public broadcasters want to reclaim online spaces with “Public Spaces Incubator”

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Post by syzarian »

version_five wrote: post #23

This is a joke. I don't know about the other broadcasters, but Canada's CBC is the propaganda organ of the liberal party and only allows an ultra-narrow ideological viewpoint. This will be the opposite of inclusive, it will just be a woke echo chamber.

What you say here is what someone who has extreme or fringe political views would say. I don’t know if you do have such views but it might be worth considering what it means or how it comes across to others to say things such people say. It’s hard to believe they only allow an ultra narrow viewpoint. It’s not like the liberal party is always the one in power in Canada.
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