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What not to say to someone who has just been laid off

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Re: What not to say to someone who has just been laid off

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Tell your friends that you're there for them before shit hits the fan. Stop and take a moment - who of your friends and family do you know has your back right now? And who of your friends and family knows you have their back? If those lists aren't what they should be, NOW is the time to work on fixing that, not when all hell has broken loose.

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Re: What not to say to someone who has just been laid off

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"Wow, that sucks. How are you holding up? Let me know if I can help, like with practice questions or whatever. If you've got time this weekend we can grab lunch." It's not perfect, but you can go a long way with something like the above: unqualified acknowledgement, interest in their well-being, offer of support with an example, and a non-pushy offer to have some company/fun/distraction. Swap in specific phrasing as…

To someone from a more collectivist culture this sounds perfectly noncommittal - a weak reed that pierces the hand of anyone who would support himself on it. What is there to be had, except lunch expenses?

Re: What not to say to someone who has just been laid off

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Why is being laid off being compared to the grief related to the death of a parent?

Why would there be any grief from a layoff? It’s just a job.

Anyone in mourning because they have to job hunt probably has some bigger issues that aren’t going to be helped in any way by what friends do or do not say.

Re: What not to say to someone who has just been laid off

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"The Five Stages of Grief" from the Kubler-Ross Model seems to apply.

1. Denial

2. Anger

3. Bargaining

4. Depression

5. Acceptance

The detail most get confused with is these stages occur in no particular order.

Personally, I would likely jump from 2 to 3, then found a competing nonprofit firm with 9k people in the same situation, The real danger with talent layoffs is people wrongly assume every employee is replaceable, and will quietly go away without financial consequences. ;)

Good luck out there, and remember that the only difference between bums in suits and most CEOs is money (don't get upset, we all know this is true). =)

Re: What not to say to someone who has just been laid off

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post #18

I'll mention one more thing which helps: Concrete offers of help. Depending on the circumstances, those can be practical (e.g. cooking and bringing food, covering part of funeral expenses/logistics) or supportive (e.g. making yourself available to talk through things or just be there for someone). A vague offer of help, many people will never make use of. "If there's anything I can do..." often doesn't quite signal "…

Indeed, I'm finding that a lot of people find a phone call scary or threatening, and are much more comfortable with a text message, or even an audio message. At the same time, a dinner offer should be great for someone close enough, but in remote work that is more rare to happen.

Writing a recommendation on LinkedIn, to me, seems like the most actionable thing one can do in such cases.

Re: What not to say to someone who has just been laid off

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> “Hey, I heard about the news. I don’t have the right words and please don’t feel obligated to reply. Just know that if I can do something, big or small, now or in the future, I’m just a text away.” i like this

"...a phone call away" for cultures and ages that prefer speaking to texting. :-)

Re: What not to say to someone who has just been laid off

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"Wow, that sucks. How are you holding up? Let me know if I can help, like with practice questions or whatever. If you've got time this weekend we can grab lunch." It's not perfect, but you can go a long way with something like the above: unqualified acknowledgement, interest in their well-being, offer of support with an example, and a non-pushy offer to have some company/fun/distraction. Swap in specific phrasing as…

To someone from a more collectivist culture this sounds perfectly noncommittal - a weak reed that pierces the hand of anyone who would support himself on it. What is there to be had, except lunch expenses?

Oh wow. What would be more appropriate in a collectivist culture? Avoiding the message and instead go over to their house to do the things suggested above?

Re: What not to say to someone who has just been laid off

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My father passed away in April of '21 just as the vaccines were coming out and everyone was getting them. He was an otherwise healthy guy who just died suddenly of a heart attack.'

The worst thing was when people would say "Did he get the vaccine?". That still makes me furious to this day. Do not politicize my father's death. Please. He's not a pawn for your agenda. The quickest way to trivialize a person's life is to turn them into a data point to support your bias. People still say that to me and it's all I can do to not punch a hole the wall every time I hear it.

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