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FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

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Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

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Madoff recovery is 88.35%. See: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-... . Many of Madoff's victims exaggerated their loses. If they invested $1MM at a claimed return of 15% for 6 years, they would claim they lost $2MM, not the $1MM principal. (I just hope our Government doesn't try to bail out crypto speculators!)

Thanks! Wow even better than I recalled To be fair there’s something to that idea. Market returns about 7% on average. Over six years that would be an opportunity cost of 50%. But, as you say there’s got to be some loss for choosing to put one’s money with a con artist I doubt there will be a crypto bailout as it seemingly didn’t get big enough to blow up anything outside itself. It also had an anti public relations…

>I doubt there will be a crypto bailout as it seemingly didn’t get big enough to blow up anything outside itself

If politicians wanted to make crypto bros whole, I would lose my mind. I doubt I am the only one, and I would hope that would be scene as a political death sentence to endorse such a proposition.

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

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> Reports on crypto Twitter are that this is a hack Is that based on some evidence, or is it speculation?

I reworded things to separate the first hand information (FTX_Official indicating they don't know what's going on) from speculation (app hacker rumors).

I saw an update on coindesk that they confirmed it was a hack on their official telegram channel?

What a dumpster fire. But let's be honest, I think retail investors weren't getting anything back anyways. Probably only impacts creditors

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

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Thanks! Wow even better than I recalled To be fair there’s something to that idea. Market returns about 7% on average. Over six years that would be an opportunity cost of 50%. But, as you say there’s got to be some loss for choosing to put one’s money with a con artist I doubt there will be a crypto bailout as it seemingly didn’t get big enough to blow up anything outside itself. It also had an anti public relations…

I've been around the block a few times, and I've had people over the years tell me about an "investment" or a fund, or their brother-in-law who could get me 15% or more on my money. And every time I've been smart enough to say "no thanks." I must admit, I don't have a lot of sympathy for Madoff's victims. Especially the charities! If I donate money to a charity, I'd expect the money to go to help people or to further…

There was a constant drumbeat of high interest promises by these crypto companies, even the supposedly “safe” ones. And so many people thought it was a no lose proposition. E.g. 8% APR at FTX.us: https://mobile.twitter.com/ftx_app/status/141749746557453927...

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

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> Reports on crypto Twitter are that this is a hack It's really unfortunate to get "hacked" with such bad timing. You steal customer money and file for bankruptcy but now the bad hackers, probably from the Bahamas as well, take whatever is left and cash out. Oh no! /s But it's alright, SBF said he's sorry.

In unrelated news SBF just found he had a bunch of crypto in his personal wallet. Totally not at all the pile of crypto that was last seen in the FTX wallet.

Yes, 1-2 billion in Sam’s personal wallets:

“Reuters is reporting that at least $1 billion in customer funds at the exchange disappeared last weekend, citing two former senior employees briefed on the company's finances.”

https://www.reuters.com/markets/currencies/exclusive-least-1...

Re: FTX faces potential hack, sees mysterious outflows totaling more than $600M

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Here is a view of the assets on-chain for anyone that's interested:

https://debank.com/profile/0x59abf3837fa962d6853b4cc0a19513a...

Currently at ~$390M. It looks like they're trying to swap most of the tokens they received into ETH on-chain.

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