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Will Coursekit Launch Up-End Blackboard?

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Re: Will Coursekit Launch Up-End Blackboard?

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I worked in academia for quite a few years. This is an industry that could really use disrupting, but I'm incredibly cynical about the possibilities of this ever happening (as far as changing internal software). Just about anyone on HN could write a better lms than blackboard, and sell it for 1/100 of the cost for huge profit margins (okay maybe some exaggeration here, but not much). But blackboard is not unique, alm…

> As soon as campus IT departments catch wind of this strategy, they will fight in every-way to make it as amazingly inconvenient as possible to go this route.

Is there really a university IT department out there that's going to prevent students and professors from using an offsite, external website? Especially if it's keeping professors happy (who, let's face it, probably complain a lot about IT's offerings) and doesn't cost them anything? Coursekit in its current form isn't dependent on IT for anything -- they host on their own server, use their own logins. IT can either ban it (and face the whiplash), or politely ask the tenured professors to stop using it (and they wouldn't even know which professors are using it, since it's external). The one thing they could kick up a storm about is student grades being stored on an external server. That's a pickle.

Faculty won't pay for this, true -- thankfully, there are other ways to make money in the industry -- but a much bigger problem is that faculty aren't even looking for it. They've been conditioned that software comes from IT, so while they may hate using Blackboard, most aren't googling for "Blackboard alternatives". That'll need to change. I think Coursekit's strategy of creating student evangelists might actually work though, especially at smaller schools where the relationships between students and professors is stronger.

Re: Will Coursekit Launch Up-End Blackboard?

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I disagree that selling to professors is a bad idea. Personally, I suspect it is the only way to enter the market. Now I doubt that if a University approches you and asks to buy your product that you'd turn them down, but that will not happen until you've proven you have a much better product. You will never convince a whole University to switch to your new product unless it, works exactly the same in every-way, bett…

Coursekit is free for professors to use. There is no purchasing decision. People seem to be missing that point here. Wouldn't the main difficulty for the professor, besides adding the course content, would be to input the grades back to Blackboard or whatever system the school uses?

Using something other than the officially supported system creates friction for the students, who generally are not as computer savvy as one might expect. We use Blackboard at my school, and it links into the the time schedule and grading. So the default course page students see is the one on Blackboard (mine redirects to my regular department page), and you can't officially post grades other than on Blackboard. I also have to go into Blackboard to see who's still registered (although this information is out of sync with whatever the official system is).

Re: Will Coursekit Launch Up-End Blackboard?

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I worked in academia for quite a few years. This is an industry that could really use disrupting, but I'm incredibly cynical about the possibilities of this ever happening (as far as changing internal software). Just about anyone on HN could write a better lms than blackboard, and sell it for 1/100 of the cost for huge profit margins (okay maybe some exaggeration here, but not much). But blackboard is not unique, alm…

> As soon as campus IT departments catch wind of this strategy, they will fight in every-way to make it as amazingly inconvenient as possible to go this route. Is there really a university IT department out there that's going to prevent students and professors from using an offsite, external website? Especially if it's keeping professors happy (who, let's face it, probably complain a lot about IT's offerings) and doe…

>Is there really a university IT department out there that's going to prevent students and professors from using an offsite, external website?

Yep. They'll quote policy and if that doesn't work pull out the FERPA card. But it isn't insurmountable. The ongoing push towards more unified assessment systems by the accreditation bodies means that many universities are purchasing third party systems that are hosted off-campus, and that seems to be opening up some avenues.

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