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I mean, famously the popular press and internet provide a totally infallible account of information. Here's the scoop. I did take undergraduate biology courses. I studied biochemistry to bachelors and masters degree level, and I can tell you for absolutely nothing that the "popular media's" interpretation of science is pretty frequently bordering irresponsible. The media is there to sell papers. Your analysis of the…
How is preventing aids by not engaging in man on man encounters and shooting illegal drugs ignorant and offensive?
Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, famously the popular press and internet provide a totally infallible account of information. Here's the scoop. I did take undergraduate biology courses. I studied biochemistry to bachelors and masters degree level, and I can tell you for absolutely nothing that the "popular media's" interpretation of science is pretty frequently bordering irresponsible. The media is there to sell papers. Your analysis of the…
How is preventing aids by not engaging in man on man encounters and shooting illegal drugs ignorant and offensive?
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#23Mailing contagious items: Not cool. Local "pox party": I have no problem with it. My ex caught chicken pox from our children around the time he turned 32. Chicken pox in adults is much more serious than in children. I finally dragged him to a doctor against his will after watching his fever go up 0.8 degrees a day every single day until it was over 104F. Above 105 is dangerous. It was on track to hit that mark within…
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And, that would be violation of Federal law. Documented on FB?... No thanks.
My father caught chicken pox as an adult, while travelling. It nearly killed him.
P.S. Looked at the story (duh). Says the same thing. Anyway, I'll leave my personal anecdote FWIW.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, famously the popular press and internet provide a totally infallible account of information. Here's the scoop. I did take undergraduate biology courses. I studied biochemistry to bachelors and masters degree level, and I can tell you for absolutely nothing that the "popular media's" interpretation of science is pretty frequently bordering irresponsible. The media is there to sell papers. Your analysis of the…
How is preventing aids by not engaging in man on man encounters and shooting illegal drugs ignorant and offensive?
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
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Clarification: I did not take any undergraduate biology courses. You don't need prestige academic credentials to read about it in the popular press, type in some search terms, and come up with this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis . There is no checking of your SAT scores or college GPA or anything inorder to do this, so give it a try. They may track you via cookies, but I recommend taking a chance.
It's called the hygiene hypothesis , not the vaccine hypothesis . Let's take a look: >In medicine, the Hygiene Hypothesis states that a lack of early childhood exposure to infectious agents, symbiotic microorganisms (e.g., gut flora or probiotics) Okay, so if you've had the chicken pox vaccine, your immune system has been exposed to infectious agents -- just inactivated ones! The kind that don't cause shingles. Vacci…
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#26Mailing contagious items: Not cool. Local "pox party": I have no problem with it. My ex caught chicken pox from our children around the time he turned 32. Chicken pox in adults is much more serious than in children. I finally dragged him to a doctor against his will after watching his fever go up 0.8 degrees a day every single day until it was over 104F. Above 105 is dangerous. It was on track to hit that mark within…
s/Not cool/Illegal/ IIRC And, that would be violation of Federal law. Documented on FB?... No thanks. My father caught chicken pox as an adult, while travelling. It nearly killed him. P.S. Looked at the story (duh). Says the same thing. Anyway, I'll leave my personal anecdote FWIW.
Whether legal or not, I don't find it acceptable. Similarly, on CF lists, people routinely post announcements that they have leftover medical supplies of some sort and are willing to give it away for free (sometimes on the condition that the recipient cover postage, sometimes not). This is generally viewed as socially acceptable on most CF lists because medical expenses for CF are extremely high and people coping with CF are typically financially devastated by that fact. On the only CF list I own, I announced that this was not an acceptable practice because I think the price of exposure to the germs of another person with CF outweighs the value of the supplies. So I think that's Not Cool either, even in cases where it happens to be legal (and legality of it varies by jurisdiction in this case and probably also depends on exactly what is being offered).
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s/Not cool/Illegal/ IIRC And, that would be violation of Federal law. Documented on FB?... No thanks. My father caught chicken pox as an adult, while travelling. It nearly killed him. P.S. Looked at the story (duh). Says the same thing. Anyway, I'll leave my personal anecdote FWIW.
I imagine it is illegal (someone else already said that here). Law and morality are not the same thing and are fairly often at odds. Historically in the US, slavery was legal at one time in some states. After it was abolished, racism was embodied in the legal code. Plenty of morally high minded people disagreed with those laws. Whether legal or not, I don't find it acceptable. Similarly, on CF lists, people routinely…
In this case, I have two points:
- If you're going to do something like this, coordinating it on FB is a stupid idea. (Mailing contagious materials without taking defined precautions is seriously frowned upon.)
- Mail is sometimes inspected. Misdelivered. Undeliverable. Damaged. In this case, it is most likely not marked as hazardous. What might one be inflicting upon the unsuspecting handler of such an error condition?
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I imagine it is illegal (someone else already said that here). Law and morality are not the same thing and are fairly often at odds. Historically in the US, slavery was legal at one time in some states. After it was abolished, racism was embodied in the legal code. Plenty of morally high minded people disagreed with those laws. Whether legal or not, I don't find it acceptable. Similarly, on CF lists, people routinely…
Given the way entrenched interests warp and these days even write the laws, I try to keep an independent mindset. In this case, I have two points: - If you're going to do something like this, coordinating it on FB is a stupid idea. (Mailing contagious materials without taking defined precautions is seriously frowned upon.) - Mail is sometimes inspected. Misdelivered. Undeliverable. Damaged. In this case, it is most l…
Yes, I totally agree that coordinating something like this on FB (or many other websites) is pretty darn dumb. (Isn't there some Einstein quote about stupidity being infinite or something?)
As for your second point, I was an environmental studies major for a time. I really don't think most people think that far ahead. I hope, if nothing else, this does draw enough national attention to educate people as to how foolish and dangerous it is to mail contagious items. And, oh, breaking federal law by messing with the mail is very serious business. Much more so than many people might realize. Even if they don't get enlightened as to how dumb this is, perhaps they will at least get a clue that this detail is no small matter and can seriously impact their lives. I'm very okay with fear of the law being a deterrent to such activities in cases where "common sense" seems absent.
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#30The stupider the people get, the more regulations and laws need to be passed to regulate them. These individuals need to be punished, and if they don't stop, children taken away from them. I don't see this any different than harsh physical abuse. All those participating in it, should be guilty of child endangerment as well. In general those refusing to vaccinate their child should be forced to sign a waver form that…
This may not be a case of stupidity. It could very well be simple ignorance that a chicken pox vaccine exists. Until I saw this article, I was previously unaware that a vaccine for chicken pox was ever developed.