Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
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Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#2The stupider the people get, the more regulations and laws need to be passed to regulate them.
These individuals need to be punished, and if they don't stop, children taken away from them. I don't see this any different than harsh physical abuse.
All those participating in it, should be guilty of child endangerment as well.
In general those refusing to vaccinate their child should be forced to sign a waver form that would make it very easy to fast-track their prosecution for abuse and child endangerment if it can be shown the child has been infected and their life is in danger or has infected others.
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#3I don't really see the hate for these people. You get the chicken pox once. The earlier in life you get it, the less troublesome it is.
I'm not going to argue against vaccinations, but the reality is that we have much more long-term data about having kids play together than the chicken pox vaccine. Both options are probably equally good at this point, and most people have personal experience with the first one and not the second one. Therefore it's not particularly odd to want your kid to get chicken pox naturally.
(I don't buy the argument about "giving the immune system a workout", though.)
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#4The stupider the people get, the more regulations and laws need to be passed to regulate them. These individuals need to be punished, and if they don't stop, children taken away from them. I don't see this any different than harsh physical abuse. All those participating in it, should be guilty of child endangerment as well. In general those refusing to vaccinate their child should be forced to sign a waver form that…
This may not be a case of stupidity. It could very well be simple ignorance that a chicken pox vaccine exists. Until I saw this article, I was previously unaware that a vaccine for chicken pox was ever developed.
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#5I don't really see the hate for these people. You get the chicken pox once. The earlier in life you get it, the less troublesome it is. I'm not going to argue against vaccinations, but the reality is that we have much more long-term data about having kids play together than the chicken pox vaccine. Both options are probably equally good at this point, and most people have personal experience with the first one and no…
Because sending highly infectious biological material through the mail system can be exceptionally hazardous for anyone who may come into contact with it. Adult chickenpox can be lethal.
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#6The stupider the people get, the more regulations and laws need to be passed to regulate them. These individuals need to be punished, and if they don't stop, children taken away from them. I don't see this any different than harsh physical abuse. All those participating in it, should be guilty of child endangerment as well. In general those refusing to vaccinate their child should be forced to sign a waver form that…
What do you say the relative of someone who had a vaccine and immediately became crippled and couldn't walk because the reaction damaged their inner-ear? Just co-incidence? No p-value with a sample of one? Would you make them take that vaccine? Or let 'em slide on this one? I'm not sure your government regulations would deal with this case.
The immune system is an organ like the muscles, brain and heart. Putting a little stress on these organs is actually good. Just because the autism/vaccine fiasco was fraud doesn't invalidate all concerns. For instance the school system forcing girls to get "anti-cancer" vaccines when there is an effect alternative (i.e. "dont' be a promiscuous"). The parents can make that choice ... or the kid when she becomes a teenager. If polio or small-pox are threats, certainly the good out weighs the bad. But chicken-pox? Not so clear cut. AIDS? Again, don't sleep around and dont jab things in your body and you won't get AIDS.
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#7I don't really see the hate for these people. You get the chicken pox once. The earlier in life you get it, the less troublesome it is. I'm not going to argue against vaccinations, but the reality is that we have much more long-term data about having kids play together than the chicken pox vaccine. Both options are probably equally good at this point, and most people have personal experience with the first one and no…
>You get the chicken pox once.
False.
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#8You can believe the unknowns associated with the new chicken pox vaccine aren't worth the well-known and manageable hassle of having the chicken pox, without also believing crazy things about vaccines causing autism or sending infections through the mail.
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#9The stupider the people get, the more regulations and laws need to be passed to regulate them. These individuals need to be punished, and if they don't stop, children taken away from them. I don't see this any different than harsh physical abuse. All those participating in it, should be guilty of child endangerment as well. In general those refusing to vaccinate their child should be forced to sign a waver form that…
What do you say the relative of someone who had a vaccine and immediately became crippled and couldn't walk because the reaction damaged their inner-ear? Just co-incidence? No p-value with a sample of one? Would you make them take that vaccine? Or let 'em slide on this one? I'm not sure your government regulations would deal with this case. The immune system is an organ like the muscles, brain and heart. Putting a li…
>What do you say the relative of someone who had a vaccine and immediately became crippled and couldn't walk because the reaction damaged their inner-ear?
The same thing you say to the person who got struck by lightning five times. On a societal level, you work with the 99.99999%.
>The immune system is an organ like the muscles, brain and heart. Putting a little stress on these organs is actually good.
Just to verify: you took one bio course as a college underclassman and you think that makes you an immunologist.
Re: Parents coordinate trading of chicken pox-laced goods via Facebook
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you say the relative of someone who had a vaccine and immediately became crippled and couldn't walk because the reaction damaged their inner-ear? Just co-incidence? No p-value with a sample of one? Would you make them take that vaccine? Or let 'em slide on this one? I'm not sure your government regulations would deal with this case. The immune system is an organ like the muscles, brain and heart. Putting a li…
>What do you say the relative of someone who had a vaccine and immediately became crippled and couldn't walk because the reaction damaged their inner-ear? The same thing you say to the person who got struck by lightning five times. On a societal level, you work with the 99.99999%. >The immune system is an organ like the muscles, brain and heart. Putting a little stress on these organs is actually good. Just to verify…
Clarification: I did not take any undergraduate biology courses.
You don't need prestige academic credentials to read about it in the popular press, type in some search terms, and come up with this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis . There is no checking of your SAT scores or college GPA or anything inorder to do this, so give it a try. They may track you via cookies, but I recommend taking a chance.