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Uhm... So why did you get a Mac again? I don't even have a Mac, but if all I wanted to do was run Linux shit (and you clearly did), I'd pick up a cheap Dell laptop instead of overpriced Mac hardware.
Perhaps an initial understanding that OS X could do everything Linux could. Otherwise, an appreciation of Johnathan Ive's industrial design.
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Uhm... So why did you get a Mac again? I don't even have a Mac, but if all I wanted to do was run Linux shit (and you clearly did), I'd pick up a cheap Dell laptop instead of overpriced Mac hardware.
Perhaps an initial understanding that OS X could do everything Linux could. Otherwise, an appreciation of Johnathan Ive's industrial design.
This, and the app-store debacle, is the kind of stuff that makes me think that Apple isn't in it for the long haul. Why doesn't MacOSX ship with native GTK? And Qt? Why hasn't OpenOffice worked seamlessly from day 1? Or at least day 5? Why don't Apple embrace the huge community that worships their products, instead of becoming the next Microsoft? What have they got to loose? If getting my favourite Linux apps to run…
I think for Shareholder Value, they DO want to be the next Microsoft. Technically uninteresting but raking it in for generations.
This, and the app-store debacle, is the kind of stuff that makes me think that Apple isn't in it for the long haul. Why doesn't MacOSX ship with native GTK? And Qt? Why hasn't OpenOffice worked seamlessly from day 1? Or at least day 5? Why don't Apple embrace the huge community that worships their products, instead of becoming the next Microsoft? What have they got to loose? If getting my favourite Linux apps to run…
macports gives OSX a decent enough package management system; port install ocaml, port install erlang, what more could you ask for? I guess using system libraries would be a bonus, but it's really quite usable as-is.
This, and the app-store debacle, is the kind of stuff that makes me think that Apple isn't in it for the long haul. Why doesn't MacOSX ship with native GTK? And Qt? Why hasn't OpenOffice worked seamlessly from day 1? Or at least day 5? Why don't Apple embrace the huge community that worships their products, instead of becoming the next Microsoft? What have they got to loose? If getting my favourite Linux apps to run…
So by bringing in all this extra crap, they loose that consistent look and feel, and that is basically what separates their platform to most people. They have a lot to loose.
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Sounds like you REALLY wanted MacOSX to be Linux.
Most software developers want that - or, more specifically, all the benefits of Linux with mainstream hardware and application support. What's wrong with that?
Not only does it have poor support for common hardware, it has artificially restricted support. What it does support, it supports reasonably well, but that hardly qualifies OSX as a system that supports mainstream hardware.
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Sounds like you REALLY wanted MacOSX to be Linux.
Most software developers want that - or, more specifically, all the benefits of Linux with mainstream hardware and application support. What's wrong with that?
You get a terminal with bash or whatever shell you wish, which works great (none of the Cygwin crap). You can compile most non-GUI Linux apps for OS X (and many GUI ones). Etc.
I rarely run into things that I can do on Linux that I can't do on OS X.
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Because Mac OS X has Cocoa/Aqua for its UI instead of GTK/Gnome or QT/KDE. If you want GTK/Gnome or QT/KDE, use Linux. If you want Cocoa/Aqua, use Mac OS X. If you looked at something like MacPorts or Fink, you would see that installing $randomPackage is as simple as "sudo (fink/port) install packagename" Oh, and last i checked, NeoOffice worked fine (And OpenOffice is finally getting around to finishing a native Mac…
These package managers are a far cry from a decent Linux, dependencies are handled poorly, installing an innocent looking library sometimes takes hours. If you do a search you will find a lot of painful stories or long pages with tons of magic to install a simple piece of code. Duh.
But, again: Mac OS X is not Linux. Setting Portage up is a huge hack to hold things together though. So if you have the time to set a .deb or .rpm-based system up, you should really just get a Linux box to use instead and then take the time you saved and do something productive. At least thats what my experience tells me.