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Re: I/O 2022

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Post by samhw »

valbaca wrote: post #19

Multiple mentions of "skin tone" and AI. Did they really mess up skin tone recognition that bad that they needed three different solutions to it? (I feel like I missed some major fuckup on their end) https://blog.google/products/assistant/assistant-io-2022/ https://blog.google/products/search/monk-skin-tone-scale/ https://blog.google/technology/research/ai-monk-scale-skin-t...

> “In our research, we found that a lot of the time people feel they’re lumped into racial categories, but there’s all this heterogeneity with ethnic and racial categories,” Dr. Monk says.

"People think we're lumping them into racial categories. But we're actually lumping them into slightly narrower racial categories!"

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by CydeWeys »

lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

Fwiw, I gave a much less important I/O presentation than this four years ago and I had to go through endless hours of prep/review/practice. I can't imagine they didn't rehearse it. Maybe they're just not great speakers? I doubt I am either.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by croddin »

croddin wrote: post #15
enos_feedler wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WWDC and other Apple events justify more hype because they are market leaders in mobile. When you watch an Apple event you are often seeing things for the first time. Google Pixel is blatantly copying the Apple product portfolio, from custom chip designs to now Airpod Pro clones. Where would Google be with Pixel if Apple didn't exist? It is literally spun up division to copy the most valuable company in the world. We…

"Picasso had a saying -- 'good artists copy; great artists steal' -- and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas." -Steve Jobs

The question is: are these companies 'copying' or 'stealing'? Hopefully they can improve on things rather than just copying.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by babyshake »

valbaca wrote: post #19

Multiple mentions of "skin tone" and AI. Did they really mess up skin tone recognition that bad that they needed three different solutions to it? (I feel like I missed some major fuckup on their end) https://blog.google/products/assistant/assistant-io-2022/ https://blog.google/products/search/monk-skin-tone-scale/ https://blog.google/technology/research/ai-monk-scale-skin-t...

Their super bowl ad was also focused on fixing AI racism. There is surely a political and marketing aspect to this focus.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by agumonkey »

andybak wrote: post #10
indy wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no hype because they don't have anything to show that deserves hype. It's all the same: AI to improve photos, AI to improve translations and small iterative improvements to Android that you swear were shown at a Google IO event years ago Edit: watching the livestream and they've just announced an Android tablet! Honestly this déjà vu is getting ridiculous

Maybe they'll launch a new messaging service.

We're all getting very frustrated at that point.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by excerionsforte »

Definitely happy they are figuring out the skin tone stuff for search. Being able to search for skin conditions and hone in on skin tone efficiently has been a pet peeve of mine. Psoriasis, for instance, looks different on different skin tones.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by sylens »

retskrad wrote: post #2

Google is working on some interesting stuff but their live events aren’t doing them any favors. There’s no hype leading up to them and the events themselves are dull as hell. Google currently has only 40k people watching the live event. Apple WWDC events attract 10X as many concurrent viewers.

> There’s no hype leading up to them

I was not even aware Google I/O was today

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by systemvoltage »

lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

I miss Steve Jobs era of keynotes. All keynotes are just so dull today.

What went wrong?

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by natly »

lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

I think tech in general is kinda stagnating at this point. We've plucked all the low hanging fruit, to get new revolutionary things will be much more slow going from here.

Re: I/O 2022

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Post by hintymad »

lkxijlewlf wrote: post #11

I popped in for a few minutes to verify something. I'm ... over this whole annual what's new presentation stuff. I just don't care anymore. And honestly the three presenters I saw didn't even seem like they rehearsed at all. They just read from the prompter and tried to put excitement in their voice at the same time and it just fell flat.

It's probably because the new products are really incremental improvements over some niche. There's nothing wrong with that either. I don't expect that a company would churn out groundbreaking products year over year -- I certainly wish so, though, as it means new problems to tackle, more meaningful projects to work on, and more demand of engineers in the industry.
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