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Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Post by SahAssar »

bluGill wrote: post #20
fsflover wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves The best practice is to abandon locked down Android phones and switch to GNU/Linux phones (Librem 5 and Pinephone).

Long term, but the software isn't quite there, though improving. Worse the radios don't support everything my carrier does. 5g is a must where I live as 4g is being skipped in remote locations that are finally being upgraded from 2g.

In that case a fairphone might meet your requiements while still being open to installing alternative OS'es.

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Post by gostsamo »

ea550ff70a wrote: post #7
hedora wrote: post #2

Typing this on a grapheneos pixel 6 pro. It makes a fine daily driver. Main complaint: Location stamps for google camera photos are a bit intermittent unless I give the sandboxed play services network access. Not sure why it's so hard to ping GPS occasionally in the background, and stick the last known location in the exif data. Still, I would recommend this setup to the HN crowd.

I've been driving Graphene for over a year. Absolutely amazing experience (for a degoogled phone). Kudos to the great team.

Hi, can you check the accessibility services on Graphene? Are there any screen readers?

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Post by em-bee »

hans_castorp wrote: post #14

There is also eFoundation: https://e.foundation/

i was wondering why de-googled.com does not offer e.foundation as well, but then they sell phones as well, and i guess there is no need to compete on the same product.

very happy with /e/OS for more than two years now.

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Post by em-bee »

uo21tp5hoyg wrote: post #5

The US government has really shaken my trust in services like these (which I guess is their ultimate goal). With the risk that these "secure devices" type sellers are fronts I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves, it requires the level of technical knowledge you'd need to even know you'd want somethin…

how would you look at e.foundation in comparison? they sell phones with their own OS, so if you trust the OS then i think you can trust their phones.

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Post by GeneralMaximus »

fsflover wrote: post #19
uo21tp5hoyg wrote: post #5

The US government has really shaken my trust in services like these (which I guess is their ultimate goal). With the risk that these "secure devices" type sellers are fronts I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves, it requires the level of technical knowledge you'd need to even know you'd want somethin…

> I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves The best practice is to abandon locked down Android phones and switch to GNU/Linux phones (Librem 5 and Pinephone).

Linux phones are entirely impractical for most people. I live in India, and there are several apps I need to use to access government services that only work on iOS and Android. Some services aren't even available over the Web.

We're at a point where any successful mobile OS will at least need to support running Android apps, preferably directly from the Play Store. I suspect this is one of the reasons Microsoft is adding Android support to Windows 11.

I like the idea of an entirely FOSS phone, but sadly that ship sailed years ago.

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Post by netizen-936824 »

SahAssar wrote: post #21
bluGill wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Long term, but the software isn't quite there, though improving. Worse the radios don't support everything my carrier does. 5g is a must where I live as 4g is being skipped in remote locations that are finally being upgraded from 2g.

In that case a fairphone might meet your requiements while still being open to installing alternative OS'es.

Is fairphone available in the US yet?

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Post by netizen-936824 »

throwaway48375 wrote: post #15
hedora wrote: post #2

Typing this on a grapheneos pixel 6 pro. It makes a fine daily driver. Main complaint: Location stamps for google camera photos are a bit intermittent unless I give the sandboxed play services network access. Not sure why it's so hard to ping GPS occasionally in the background, and stick the last known location in the exif data. Still, I would recommend this setup to the HN crowd.

>mad that google photos doesn't know his exact location i don't even

Yea this is a bit baffling

>installs grapheneos which focuses on security and privacy

>wonders why their location isn't being logged by the camera app

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Post by sharikous »

uo21tp5hoyg wrote: post #5

The US government has really shaken my trust in services like these (which I guess is their ultimate goal). With the risk that these "secure devices" type sellers are fronts I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves, it requires the level of technical knowledge you'd need to even know you'd want somethin…

The Google threat you can still mitigate or even escape.

The US government one you can't. Sorry. As much as I wish I were wrong, the hardware is probably backdoored, so no custom OS will save you. Even if it weren't a phone by design has to communicate with radio towers (backdoored) and even if you get the most secure phone in the world you still have to communicate and pay for some exotic hardware. Guess who will get added to a list of suspicious people to put an extra eye on?

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