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Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Typing this on a grapheneos pixel 6 pro. It makes a fine daily driver. Main complaint: Location stamps for google camera photos are a bit intermittent unless I give the sandboxed play services network access. Not sure why it's so hard to ping GPS occasionally in the background, and stick the last known location in the exif data. Still, I would recommend this setup to the HN crowd.

I am looking at installing grapheneOS. Do you use a banking app, and if so any issues?

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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The US government has really shaken my trust in services like these (which I guess is their ultimate goal). With the risk that these "secure devices" type sellers are fronts I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves, it requires the level of technical knowledge you'd need to even know you'd want somethin…

So Google is balancing your privacy with their expansion. If something went to court Google could be what keeps you out of court, because unless there is an independent expert, manufacturers tend to become the defacto court expert and most of the time you are probably a tiny little cash cow for them and they like milking you.

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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post #11
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Typing this on a grapheneos pixel 6 pro. It makes a fine daily driver. Main complaint: Location stamps for google camera photos are a bit intermittent unless I give the sandboxed play services network access. Not sure why it's so hard to ping GPS occasionally in the background, and stick the last known location in the exif data. Still, I would recommend this setup to the HN crowd.

I am looking at installing grapheneOS. Do you use a banking app, and if so any issues?

I do without issues, but it varies on your bank's app. There's a good chance you'll need Google Play Services, so you can receive two factor push notifications for example. But thankfully GrapheneOS has the option for Google Play Services to be installed sandboxed to varying degrees.

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Typing this on a grapheneos pixel 6 pro. It makes a fine daily driver. Main complaint: Location stamps for google camera photos are a bit intermittent unless I give the sandboxed play services network access. Not sure why it's so hard to ping GPS occasionally in the background, and stick the last known location in the exif data. Still, I would recommend this setup to the HN crowd.

>mad that google photos doesn't know his exact location

i don't even

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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The US government has really shaken my trust in services like these (which I guess is their ultimate goal). With the risk that these "secure devices" type sellers are fronts I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves, it requires the level of technical knowledge you'd need to even know you'd want somethin…

ArcaneOS comes to my mind as a recent example. I always suggest anyone to load the custom ROM themselves or ask someone you know IRL to do it for you. If you think you do not have the expertise to do it, you should ask for help. There is a good chance that you will do something wrong and compeletely brick the phone. Rob Braxman sells degoogled phones on his online store https://brax.me/prod/host.php?f=_store&h=rob&p=…

He ow can you trust the ArcaneOS releases to not be free from backdoors, etc?

Even if you build the image yourself you're still relying on someone else's code. It reminds me of the office space quote, "no one can check all that code. Thumbs up their a$$es."

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am looking at installing grapheneOS. Do you use a banking app, and if so any issues?

I do without issues, but it varies on your bank's app. There's a good chance you'll need Google Play Services, so you can receive two factor push notifications for example. But thankfully GrapheneOS has the option for Google Play Services to be installed sandboxed to varying degrees.

Thanks. I actually see now I will have to build it myself for my non-pixel phone, so let's see how it goes.

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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Typing this on a grapheneos pixel 6 pro. It makes a fine daily driver. Main complaint: Location stamps for google camera photos are a bit intermittent unless I give the sandboxed play services network access. Not sure why it's so hard to ping GPS occasionally in the background, and stick the last known location in the exif data. Still, I would recommend this setup to the HN crowd.

I am looking at installing grapheneOS. Do you use a banking app, and if so any issues?

I've recently switched to GrapheneOS, and I had issues using my old banks app (DNB, Norwegian bank) but my current bank (Sparebank1, also Norwegian) works perfectly on GrapheneOS.

I've also discovered that some apps that require safetynet, can be grabbed from the Huawei store and used, because apparently on chinese phones your bank suddenly doesn't need safetynet to be secure.

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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The US government has really shaken my trust in services like these (which I guess is their ultimate goal). With the risk that these "secure devices" type sellers are fronts I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves, it requires the level of technical knowledge you'd need to even know you'd want somethin…

> I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves

The best practice is to abandon locked down Android phones and switch to GNU/Linux phones (Librem 5 and Pinephone).

Re: Degoogled phones running privacy oriented OS

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The US government has really shaken my trust in services like these (which I guess is their ultimate goal). With the risk that these "secure devices" type sellers are fronts I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves, it requires the level of technical knowledge you'd need to even know you'd want somethin…

> I think it's best practice for anyone wanting a de-googeled device to just buy one of these phones in store with cash and then load the custom OS themselves The best practice is to abandon locked down Android phones and switch to GNU/Linux phones (Librem 5 and Pinephone).

Long term, but the software isn't quite there, though improving.

Worse the radios don't support everything my carrier does. 5g is a must where I live as 4g is being skipped in remote locations that are finally being upgraded from 2g.

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