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What’s the thinking behind it? What is the real advantage to Toyota pushing petrol? Do they think they’ll be raking in money when they’re the last petrol engine cars you can get?
They've absolutely perfected their vehicles as-is, comparatively speaking.
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They bet on hydrogen vs electric cars, and that didn't pay off. They're already good at making ICE vehicles, so rather make up for a huge amount of lost time and effort, it's a bid to keep the current business going.
Lets see in 10 years. Id bet hydrogen is one fundamental discovery away from winning
I'd say its just about there.
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That's an interesting question: 1st gear at idle in low range (4-Low) in a typical ICE vehicle is about a slow walking speed. I wonder how smooth the electric motor would be at that speed without additional gearing. Anyway, there's off road and there's off road. If you're a few hours from a road, EV can be useful at the low speeds you'll typically be driving at: If you are days from a charging source, not so much. Go…
> I wonder how smooth the electric motor would be at that speed without additional gearing. Have you seen the Bollinger trials? https://youtu.be/W7TK6WhU_l4?t=379 Militaries are also looking very keenly towards EV because it lets you crawl silently over ground, where in a diesel you need to rev it up and get some momentum going. > Anyway, there's off road and there's off road. Saying as someone who professionally ope…
What’s the thinking behind it? What is the real advantage to Toyota pushing petrol? Do they think they’ll be raking in money when they’re the last petrol engine cars you can get?
It works. Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do. Maybe they'll get there but there's gonna need to be some massive advances in batteries to be able to go off-road and pull loads like any of those current trucks can.
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They bet on hydrogen vs electric cars, and that didn't pay off. They're already good at making ICE vehicles, so rather make up for a huge amount of lost time and effort, it's a bid to keep the current business going.
Lets see in 10 years. Id bet hydrogen is one fundamental discovery away from winning
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It works. Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do. Maybe they'll get there but there's gonna need to be some massive advances in batteries to be able to go off-road and pull loads like any of those current trucks can.
> Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do. Weird examples - isn't EV actually uniquely well-suited to off-road and towing? Maximum torque at zero-revs? I can't wait to swap my Defender for a full electric variant when Land Rover manage to ship it - partly for the better capability.
Multiple tests with Teslas are the same. When they're loaded down their range is very bad.
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It works. Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do. Maybe they'll get there but there's gonna need to be some massive advances in batteries to be able to go off-road and pull loads like any of those current trucks can.
EVs will take over this role among the first things. Instant torque, no transmission, torque vectoring, no switching gears, no differential.
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It works. Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do. Maybe they'll get there but there's gonna need to be some massive advances in batteries to be able to go off-road and pull loads like any of those current trucks can.
The F-150 Lightning, R1T, and Cybertruck all offer a minimum towing capacity of 10,000 pounds. The price is higher and the range is lower than their petrol equivalents, but it is false to say these EV trucks are less capable in going off-road and pulling heavy loads.
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They bet on hydrogen vs electric cars, and that didn't pay off. They're already good at making ICE vehicles, so rather make up for a huge amount of lost time and effort, it's a bid to keep the current business going.
Lets see in 10 years. Id bet hydrogen is one fundamental discovery away from winning
I do see H2 fuel cells having a part to play in industries like shipping, forestry, and agriculture where grid connections are either tricky or impossible, but fuel cell passenger vehicles won't ever make sense financially.