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Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Any notable competitive advantages over DigitalOcean, Linode, Vultr, and all the other "starting at $5" copycat options in the U.S.?

Looking at their price sheet, and converting Euro to U.S. Dollar, it appears that their "$5 droplet" currently costs $4.05. You'd have to make sure you pay with a credit card that doesn't charge foreign transaction fees, and you'd have to hope that the currency exchange rate doesn't shift in a less favorable direction later.

If you're a company operating larger VM's or larger numbers of VM's, then maybe? I guess. But if you're a self-propelled company or an investor-funded startup, then you're probably on AWS, Azure, or GCP anyway. And for personal side project use in the U.S., I'm just not seeing any real reason to jump for a 95 cent discount that will fluctuate.

EDIT: A thank you to the people who actually answered the question, or gave their own personal experience, rather than just downvoting. Looking more closely at the price sheet, I can see that while the smallest option is not very distinguishable from DO or Linode, Hetzner does get more competitive at larger VM sizes.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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post #11
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elaborate?

Under European law it is reasonably impossible for an individual to run a forum or blog which is open to comments: > The EU just passed TERREG yesterday without a vote that requires anyone running a website with user generated content (a blog with comments, a forum etc.) and if they have significant EU user base to establish legal presence in the EU and have an officer responsible for deleting content with 1 hr SLA.…

> If they are operating this datacenter under their German company, wouldn't all clients have to comply with this?

No

Also none of those restrictions apply to stuff like a VM provider.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Any notable competitive advantages over DigitalOcean, Linode, Vultr, and all the other "starting at $5" copycat options in the U.S.? Looking at their price sheet, and converting Euro to U.S. Dollar, it appears that their "$5 droplet" currently costs $4.05. You'd have to make sure you pay with a credit card that doesn't charge foreign transaction fees, and you'd have to hope that the currency exchange rate doesn't shi…

Performance is better than eg. Digitalocean.

I recently made a switch and now have a AMD Epyc server with twice the specs for the same amount / month.

I'll probably move more and use docker for my WordPress instances there. Easier to maintain than in my droplets and it should be much cheaper too.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elaborate?

Apart from the obvious restrictions on holocaust denial and related socially incendiary language, there have been laws passed criminalizing hate speech. Hate speech is defined pretty broadly so something as harmless as - free translation - "man, what a schlong!" directed against a state-level politician caused a small media storm and included the police raiding the house (well... they didnt' even manage to raid the c…

The raid was the result of the politician (the Innensenator of Hamburg, responsible for the city police) reporting the post to the police. From there they had to investigate (regardless of the NetzDG or any other law governing social media). I agree that the raid was way our of proportion and probably a result of the police trying to please their boss.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Hetzner deleted all of my vms after getting erroneously flagged by their abuse department due to my account details. (nothing to do with my machines) They sent me an email saying my account was paused and to contact them to resolve it, which I did within half an hour. My account was reinstated minus all of my environment.. just a blank account. They deleted everything and told me they had no way to restore it. Beware…

When did this incident happen?

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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I'm with OVH because of their NA presence (Canada). Prefer dedicated servers because of the bang for the buck. Hopefully that's in Hetzner's roadmap too

How is OVH these days? It's been years since I used them heavily, back when I was doing some game server stuff, and they were the standard in the community I was in.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Any notable competitive advantages over DigitalOcean, Linode, Vultr, and all the other "starting at $5" copycat options in the U.S.? Looking at their price sheet, and converting Euro to U.S. Dollar, it appears that their "$5 droplet" currently costs $4.05. You'd have to make sure you pay with a credit card that doesn't charge foreign transaction fees, and you'd have to hope that the currency exchange rate doesn't shi…

20TB/month of xfer with Hetzner. DigitalOcean, for example, caps you at 1-4 TB for the smaller droplets.

And the Hetzner 2 vCPU / 2GB Ram / 40Gb disk space is ~$5.50 USD/month.

Digital Ocean's closest offering has one less vCPU, 15GB more disk space, but is $10/month.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the location of the company matters. As far as the EU is concerned if you are serving an audience in the EU you have to comply even if you are hosting on AWS or any other hosting provider regardless of where you are in the world. IANAL, but I don't think this law is a relevant factor when picking your hosting provider.

Does the law specifically carve out exceptions for hosting companies? If there isn’t an explicit exception, then the cloud hosting company could also be subjected to the same requirements to remove censored content from their platform within 1 hour of receiving the notice. A hosting platform hosting user-provided code and content isn’t that much different than a forum platform hosting user-provided comments in the ey…

> Does the law specifically carve out exceptions for hosting companies?

Does this law even apply to hosting companies? The description mentions people running websites, which in this case refers to customers of hosting companies such as AWS, Hetzner, and others. Expecting hosting companies such as Hetzner to be responsible or liable for content that a client posts on a service running on one of their vCPU would make as much sense as going after AWS just because a conspiracy nut posted a tweet.

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

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Hetzner deleted all of my vms after getting erroneously flagged by their abuse department due to my account details. (nothing to do with my machines) They sent me an email saying my account was paused and to contact them to resolve it, which I did within half an hour. My account was reinstated minus all of my environment.. just a blank account. They deleted everything and told me they had no way to restore it. Beware…

Any details on what the alleged abuse was?

Re: Hetzner cloud servers are now available in Ashburn USA

#30

Hetzner deleted all of my vms after getting erroneously flagged by their abuse department due to my account details. (nothing to do with my machines) They sent me an email saying my account was paused and to contact them to resolve it, which I did within half an hour. My account was reinstated minus all of my environment.. just a blank account. They deleted everything and told me they had no way to restore it. Beware…

When did this incident happen?

Q1 2018
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