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Yes: it would alleviate the concerns of other other Android licensees, who currently own about 45% of the smartphone market.
Sounds very unlikely. If it was that they would've have announced it by now. Or the headline would be 'Google gets joint licensing(and right to sue) for Motorola patents for $6 billion'.
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Yes: it would alleviate the concerns of other other Android licensees, who currently own about 45% of the smartphone market.
Sounds very unlikely. If it was that they would've have announced it by now. Or the headline would be 'Google gets joint licensing(and right to sue) for Motorola patents for $6 billion'.
And recent events tend to show that Moto Mobility would not have been able to continue to sell smartphones if they had sold their patents to Google.
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It's just one of many, many websites that makes their money by pandering to a niche. It's tasteless, but profitable.
>It's tasteless, but profitable. The problem is that they are bandied about as independent opinion and analysis. Gruber sells ads on his RSS feeds, which seem to cost thousands of dollars each, thanks to advertising by iOS apps. No wonder he plays to his fanbase with the pro-Apple and anti-Google/Android/MS rhetoric. He must be laughing all the way to the bank while thinking up his next 'The precisely perfect placeme…
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Yes: it would alleviate the concerns of other other Android licensees, who currently own about 45% of the smartphone market.
Sounds very unlikely. If it was that they would've have announced it by now. Or the headline would be 'Google gets joint licensing(and right to sue) for Motorola patents for $6 billion'.
A reason for them not to announce it is fear of drawing the attention of anti-trust regulators.
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#25Is it only me that think's this guy's a nutter that gets by by saying whatever Apple fans want to hear? Here's some of his startlingly wrong predictions about the smartphone market from last year: http://www.asymco.com/2010/11/03/what-do-you-have-to-believe... His key arguments where that: * Android wouldn't grow faster than the average of RIM, Nokia, HP and Apple. * Nokia wouldn't dump Symbian&Meego for someone else…
He was largely right on profitability, no?
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While I usually don't agree with the convoluted and twisted logic of Asymco, Gruber and Marco (they do get a lot of undeserved traction on HN thanks to its big section of Apple fans), I think this time he does have a point. It will be a tightrope walk for Google about who and how to share the longterm plans of the OS with etc.
Undeserved traction? Isn't Apple performing outrageously well with consumers and as a company? Were they not the largest capitalized company in the world at one point recently? If Apple were not being reported on here heavily (and positively), a site devoted to the intersection of hacking and business, that would be awfully weird, no? As far as I know, developer revenue from iPhone apps still dwarfs Android. Shouldn'…
I don't know how you construed it as if my comment was against general(if a little overactive) Apple coverage, which is think is well deserved since Apple is doing a lot lately. You were attacking a strawman.
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Sounds very unlikely. If it was that they would've have announced it by now. Or the headline would be 'Google gets joint licensing(and right to sue) for Motorola patents for $6 billion'.
>If it was that they would've have announced it by now. A reason for them not to announce it is fear of drawing the attention of anti-trust regulators.
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>HTC announced that its first quarter 2011 profits were up by a staggering 191 per cent to $511 million from the same time last year. Revenue figures were not too shabby either, showing 174 per cent growth, meaning that profit growth outstripped revenue growth, something that is particularly desirable on any balance sheet. Do you get your news from Apple centered sites and blogs and the comments there? There seems to…
See here, however: http://www.intomobile.com/2011/05/02/apple-has-50-profit-sha... While HTC's profits are unquestionably growing, their profit share actually declined a bit; remember it's a very rapidly expanding industry. Motorola Mobility, SE and LG are loss-making or close to it. Only Samsung is in a really strong position.
>Besides android vendors aren't really profitable by big margins
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See here, however: http://www.intomobile.com/2011/05/02/apple-has-50-profit-sha... While HTC's profits are unquestionably growing, their profit share actually declined a bit; remember it's a very rapidly expanding industry. Motorola Mobility, SE and LG are loss-making or close to it. Only Samsung is in a really strong position.
You think that's enough to support the following statement? >Besides android vendors aren't really profitable by big margins
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>It's tasteless, but profitable. The problem is that they are bandied about as independent opinion and analysis. Gruber sells ads on his RSS feeds, which seem to cost thousands of dollars each, thanks to advertising by iOS apps. No wonder he plays to his fanbase with the pro-Apple and anti-Google/Android/MS rhetoric. He must be laughing all the way to the bank while thinking up his next 'The precisely perfect placeme…
Just because people don’t share your opinion doesn’t mean that they are purposefully lying. It’s a quite common fallacy, really.
Regardless of the above quote, I do not accuse them of lying. But there's a strong elementy of hypocrisy and fanboyism, both in supporting Apple almost all the time, and screaming bloody murder and abject criticism of any moves by Apple's competitors.
Do you seriously think analysis by Asymco, Gruber and Marco regarding Apple are the flawless gospel truth?
The fallacy you mention would apply more to the accusations of commenters being paid MS shills, which happens all the time here on HN too.