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It’s pretty crazy that there are still people out there who can defend RMS for his contributions but are perfectly capable of conveniently IGNORING his vile comments about women, Epstein and related accusations while spouting “bullying” and “cancel culture.”
Even if you excuse his terrible personal opinions and his egregious personal hygiene, you cannot excuse his behaviour, specially around women. https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1173637138413318144?s...
There is already a mechanism in place if Stallman has infringed any law, and it is not Twitter threads. The mere disliking of man's behavior does not constitute ground for his harassment in turn. Hitting on women is no crime. That linked thread is nothing but a person disagreeing with RMS's fringiest opinions. Stop with the empty mobbing of people just because you do not agree with them.
People who are against bullying of Richard Stallman exists too! And there are lot of them - quiet developers, incapable of social interaction. We are not reading Twitter 24/7, we are not speakers nor evangelists. We write commit messages, not tweets. We are doing things, not loud manifestos. And all powers currently is seized by a loud crowd who believe that person should be judged by his words, not his deeds. They b…
Also, this quasi-poetic, we-we-we, silent-majority, US vs THEM, argument comes off as "all developers must support RMS" saber-rattling.
I don't have a twitter (or any social media) and I've been a software engineer long enough that I worry about ageism. I definitely think RMS has been using his celebrity to avoid dealing with a bunch of unchecked personal demons. I also think MM relationship with JE was highly suspect.
All that said, kicking RMS out the FSF was organized publicity move because someone sensed a chink in the armor, not because they cared about MM accusers.
Is there any objective context here? What has RMS said, what are the attacks? I assume there are also fair, clear-headed criticisms of what he has said and how he said it.
This may answer your questions https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1173637138413318144
Now, imagine you quoted someone saying something controversial twenty years ago, and then apologized for it. And now someone starts a Twitter thread in a mass attack to find all your possible flaws as a human being. It's just sick.
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Can you give me a list of such women?
I can link you some examples, but a complete list is impossible. In the middle of this article: https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-appendix...
That is some twisted mythos regarding RMS. All his online, TV, and keynote appearances have proven him to be a misunderstood and harmless tech expert. What is your experience from speaking to him personally?
It’s pretty crazy that there are still people out there who can defend RMS for his contributions but are perfectly capable of conveniently IGNORING his vile comments about women, Epstein and related accusations while spouting “bullying” and “cancel culture.”
Could you please quote his "vile comments" about Epstein?
Refresh your memory: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/09/17/computer...
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Could you please quote his "vile comments" about Epstein?
Did you just miss September 2019? Refresh your memory: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/09/17/computer...
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I can link you some examples, but a complete list is impossible. In the middle of this article: https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-appendix...
Anything more than unverifiable claims from 30 years ago? And even then, how is sleeping on a mattress oppressive? I also sleep on a mattress. I've also asked girls out when I was young, and been declined (once). That is some twisted mythos regarding RMS. All his online, TV, and keynote appearances have proven him to be a misunderstood and harmless tech expert. What is your experience from speaking to him personally?
But I fear no matter how much I link it will never be enough.
People who are against bullying of Richard Stallman exists too! And there are lot of them - quiet developers, incapable of social interaction. We are not reading Twitter 24/7, we are not speakers nor evangelists. We write commit messages, not tweets. We are doing things, not loud manifestos. And all powers currently is seized by a loud crowd who believe that person should be judged by his words, not his deeds. They b…
How bout a person be judged by both their words and their deeds? Also, this quasi-poetic, we-we-we, silent-majority, US vs THEM, argument comes off as "all developers must support RMS" saber-rattling. I don't have a twitter (or any social media) and I've been a software engineer long enough that I worry about ageism. I definitely think RMS has been using his celebrity to avoid dealing with a bunch of unchecked person…
Because we (or this is me only?) were taught that expressing point of view which differs from current "course of the party", while may not be a subject of criminal prosecution (therefore, your freedom of speech is not formally violated), but leads to "deplatforming", you may lose your contracts, your job etc. "Cancel culture" instructs us that instant breakdown of all relations is normal, and many of those who break off relations with you do this not because they disagree with your point of view, but "just in case" to avoid consequences for themself.
Brendan Eich? Eric Steven Raymond? Media personalities like Johnny Depp, Joanne Rowling, James Gunn... All these people didn't break the law, they are not criminals, but they suffered for saying something. This is not "normal"! These cases are well-known and people will now may think twice before saying a word in defense of RMS because they are afraid! This is where "spiral of silence" comes from.
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Anything more than unverifiable claims from 30 years ago? And even then, how is sleeping on a mattress oppressive? I also sleep on a mattress. I've also asked girls out when I was young, and been declined (once). That is some twisted mythos regarding RMS. All his online, TV, and keynote appearances have proven him to be a misunderstood and harmless tech expert. What is your experience from speaking to him personally?
I can link more: https://wwahammy.com/on-safety-at-libreplanet/ But I fear no matter how much I link it will never be enough.