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RMS Support Letter

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Re: RMS Support Letter

#11
post #6

Is there any objective context here? What has RMS said, what are the attacks? I assume there are also fair, clear-headed criticisms of what he has said and how he said it.

Do not mistake any of this friction for rational discussion.

Cancel culture is about bullying and vulgar displays of power.

Re: RMS Support Letter

#12
He's probably not the ideal public figurehead you'd want for the FSF, you can make a point that it'd be good if they chose someone less prone to creating controversies for the role, but frankly, the arguments in that letter range from inaccurate representations to complete lies, and no one should get cancelled for that.

Re: RMS Support Letter

#13
post #5

Even if you excuse his terrible personal opinions and his egregious personal hygiene, you cannot excuse his behaviour, specially around women. https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1173637138413318144?s...

There is already a mechanism in place if Stallman has infringed any law, and it is not Twitter threads. The mere disliking of man's behavior does not constitute ground for his harassment in turn. Hitting on women is no crime. That linked thread is nothing but a person disagreeing with RMS's fringiest opinions. Stop with the empty mobbing of people just because you do not agree with them.

Re: RMS Support Letter

#15
post #10

People who are against bullying of Richard Stallman exists too! And there are lot of them - quiet developers, incapable of social interaction. We are not reading Twitter 24/7, we are not speakers nor evangelists. We write commit messages, not tweets. We are doing things, not loud manifestos. And all powers currently is seized by a loud crowd who believe that person should be judged by his words, not his deeds. They b…

No one is bullying RMS, they are holding him accountable for his behavior.

>And all powers currently is seized by a loud crowd who believe that person should be judged by his words, not his deeds.

His deeds actually make people (specially woman) feel unsafe in the community.

Re: RMS Support Letter

#16
post #5

Even if you excuse his terrible personal opinions and his egregious personal hygiene, you cannot excuse his behaviour, specially around women. https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1173637138413318144?s...

You didn't actually post any evidence of allegedly inexcusable behaviour around women.

Re: RMS Support Letter

#17
post #15
post #10

People who are against bullying of Richard Stallman exists too! And there are lot of them - quiet developers, incapable of social interaction. We are not reading Twitter 24/7, we are not speakers nor evangelists. We write commit messages, not tweets. We are doing things, not loud manifestos. And all powers currently is seized by a loud crowd who believe that person should be judged by his words, not his deeds. They b…

No one is bullying RMS, they are holding him accountable for his behavior. >And all powers currently is seized by a loud crowd who believe that person should be judged by his words, not his deeds. His deeds actually make people (specially woman) feel unsafe in the community.

Can you give me a list of such women?

Re: RMS Support Letter

#18
post #10

People who are against bullying of Richard Stallman exists too! And there are lot of them - quiet developers, incapable of social interaction. We are not reading Twitter 24/7, we are not speakers nor evangelists. We write commit messages, not tweets. We are doing things, not loud manifestos. And all powers currently is seized by a loud crowd who believe that person should be judged by his words, not his deeds. They b…

1. Given code is words, words and deeds would be the same thing

2. Someone who's good at code might be terrible at being a public figure, or indeed a human being other people would want to be around

Re: RMS Support Letter

#19
It’s pretty crazy that there are still people out there who can defend RMS for his contributions but are perfectly capable of conveniently IGNORING his vile comments about women, Epstein and related accusations while spouting “bullying” and “cancel culture.”

Re: RMS Support Letter

#20
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is bullying RMS, they are holding him accountable for his behavior. >And all powers currently is seized by a loud crowd who believe that person should be judged by his words, not his deeds. His deeds actually make people (specially woman) feel unsafe in the community.

Can you give me a list of such women?

I can link you some examples, but a complete list is impossible. In the middle of this article: https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-appendix...
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