Local-First Software:You Own Your Data, in Spite of the Cloud (2019) [pdf]

Post by eternalban » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 9:06 PM UTC

eternalban wrote: post #7

dvt wrote: post #3

These kinds of ideas always get traction here on HN or similar places (slashdot), but I think that ship has long sailed. People, by and large, seem to be totally okay with storing data in the cloud -- from Dropbox, to Google Docs, to InVision. All things considered, data breaches are rare, and if they do happen, they're usually to be blamed on configuration blunders, not the services at large. Other than a few highly…

People have no clue as to how computers and networks work. In fact, you may have even interviewed people for software jobs who don't have a solid grasp on these matters. This is good news, as far as system architecture is concerned, as the opinion that matters is principally concerned with utility, convenience, usability, etc. Secondly, the ship may have sailed, but interestingly these ships apparently are generation…

Post by mvzvm » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 9:13 PM UTC

pdimitar wrote: post #12

dvt wrote: post #3

These kinds of ideas always get traction here on HN or similar places (slashdot), but I think that ship has long sailed. People, by and large, seem to be totally okay with storing data in the cloud -- from Dropbox, to Google Docs, to InVision. All things considered, data breaches are rare, and if they do happen, they're usually to be blamed on configuration blunders, not the services at large. Other than a few highly…

You seem to underestimate the pressure from the market. At one point the younger generation does not even remember there was a local-first software. Sadly the relentless efforts of the corporations are paying off. That doesn't mean people are okay with it. It means their choice is made for them.

Post by bhl » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 9:17 PM UTC

pdimitar wrote: post #11

I am completely behind the idea and would work full time on it (if I had my time for myself) but all such documents or sites are all talk and no code and it's getting tiring. I get that they want to inspire, to show data backing up the idea that people are open to that software model, and in general to give hope and inform but... I am getting way too cynical and I can't help but wonder if actually writing a tool that…

Post by codemac » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 9:25 PM UTC

mvzvm wrote: post #23

pdimitar wrote: post #12

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You seem to underestimate the pressure from the market. At one point the younger generation does not even remember there was a local-first software. Sadly the relentless efforts of the corporations are paying off. That doesn't mean people are okay with it. It means their choice is made for them.

I disagree. I think HN is rabid about privacy and "owning your data", but by and large, most people just don't care.

Post by mvzvm » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 9:30 PM UTC

codemac wrote: post #27

mvzvm wrote: post #23

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I disagree. I think HN is rabid about privacy and "owning your data", but by and large, most people just don't care.

Most that I talk to do - but it's similar to how they care about the national debt. There's nothing they can do, they have no realistic expertise or control, and they vote with what - dollars once every phone purchase?