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Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by BoumTAC »

muststopmyths wrote: post #18
s1rech wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.

exactly. I have at least some trust in Mulvad, but I'll be damned if I'm getting on the hotel WiFi in a US hotel chain without VPN. Let alone while travelling in foreign countries. I frequently access my bank info etc. on such trips. With a VPN at least I have fewer random threat vectors to consider on a network.

but every site nowadays use https. Doesn't it prevent issue with public wifi ?

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by J-Kuhn »

Hamuko wrote: post #17
s1rech wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.

Wouldn't you be better served by your own VPN server?

Not everyone can setup their own web/mail/vpn/whatever server.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by LordHeini »

s1rech wrote: post #10
LordHeini wrote: post #7

Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.

Well https takes care of that.

The hotel might be able to see that you visited a certain website but thats about it.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by djrogers »

muststopmyths wrote: post #18
s1rech wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.

exactly. I have at least some trust in Mulvad, but I'll be damned if I'm getting on the hotel WiFi in a US hotel chain without VPN. Let alone while travelling in foreign countries. I frequently access my bank info etc. on such trips. With a VPN at least I have fewer random threat vectors to consider on a network.

What ‘bank info etc.’ are you accessing that isn’t TLS encrypted already? Adding IPSEC on top of that isn’t helping much, if at all…

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by xxs »

isoprophlex wrote: post #4

By now these VPN providers are like toothpaste, diapers or soft drinks: completely undifferentiated between competitors, and so only able to maintain their market share by spending loads on marketing. Of course the company with most egregious dark patterns and aggressive churn dampening wins. Thankfully a tube of toothpaste doesn't allow implementing dark patterns like this... yet.

>doesn't allow implementing dark patterns like this.

or does it? Call from the past "3D" tooth paste marketing, whitening agents, microplastics, multi-color squirts, same FUD "brush like a pro only with XXX". Those are just few (top of my head) of the levels marketing goes to attempt and sell toothpaste.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by wwwwwwwww »

vmception wrote: post #13
notRobot wrote: post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

How do they take bitcoin? I’ve seen various invoicing systems that completely break in Tor+JS and in all noJS environments. If they shoehorned bitpay in, its probably not tapping into the utility of having bitcoin payment options. I like paying invoices with Monero over Tor, while the merchant receives bitcoin that a third party pushed to them. I’ve been doing that for at least half a decade. But if I can’t access th…

They show you a BTC address and you send BTC to that address. Whatever arrives at the address is credited to your account. No "invoicing system" involved.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by LordHeini »

ence wrote: post #16
LordHeini wrote: post #7

Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

Pirating copyrighted material.

Well afaik seeding on public torrents is just about the only way, where you would get in trouble for pirating.

Just don't do that, use a private tracker and use Tor for small stuff like ebooks.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by Nextgrid »

bitcharmer wrote: post #8
dcormier wrote: post #2

https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29#file-v...

Although not entirely false, this post is a bit too defeatist. "Don't use a VPN because they may be lying about not logging connections" is the same as saying "Don't get on an airplane because the pilot may be suicidal". I'm not going to stop using vpns nor flying on airplanes because of that.

You typically get on an airplane because you have to travel someplace. With VPNs I fail to see a reason beyond circumventing geo-blocking.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by blondin »

LordHeini wrote: post #7

Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

youtube ads is the reason i am most familiar with. especially with nordvpn.

so, essentially, even the most knowledgeable people on youtube tell you that nordvpn is a must have thing. and they "use it all the time". what do you want people who don't know better to do?

that's the sad online world we live in.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Post by nicoburns »

LordHeini wrote: post #23
s1rech wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.

Well https takes care of that. The hotel might be able to see that you visited a certain website but thats about it.

Asssuming they don't MITM your connection.
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