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Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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By now these VPN providers are like toothpaste, diapers or soft drinks: completely undifferentiated between competitors, and so only able to maintain their market share by spending loads on marketing. Of course the company with most egregious dark patterns and aggressive churn dampening wins.

Thankfully a tube of toothpaste doesn't allow implementing dark patterns like this... yet.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

#5
Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them.

I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer.

Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut.

[1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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post #5

Honestly, nothing holds up to Mullvad [1]. They don't even take an email address while creating accounts, and you can pay easily with Bitcoin or even with cash mailed to them. I'm not affiliated, just a very happy customer. Mullvad is also who Mozilla trusts for the Mozilla VPN [2]. You can sign up with that if you'd like Mozilla to get a cut. [1]: https://mullvad.net/ [2]: https://vpn.mozilla.org/

Seconding Mullvad. Their service cannot be beat.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Why are these VPNs even a thing?

The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one.

From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust.

Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason.

And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not.

Maybe someone can enlighten me why these services exist and what usecase they have?

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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post #2

https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29#file-v...

Although not entirely false, this post is a bit too defeatist. "Don't use a VPN because they may be lying about not logging connections" is the same as saying "Don't get on an airplane because the pilot may be suicidal".

I'm not going to stop using vpns nor flying on airplanes because of that.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

Mostly because of their FUD marketing. Almost all of the VPN ads imply, if not outright state that accessing your bank account is unsafe without a VPN.

I mean sure, if you want to sell Netflix access sure, but their security claims are way off.

Re: NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew

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Why are these VPNs even a thing? The only reason i would use one is to get cheaper steam keys from brasil and for that i can get a free one. From a security standpoint it is awful because you increase the number of providers you have to trust. Apart from your ISP and the server you connect to, you got a third party involved for no reason. And VPNs can not that trustworhty as shown by the leaks of logs and what not. M…

If you are using the network of a hotel or a train station, for instance. Assumption is that you trust that VPN provider of course.
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