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Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

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Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

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Post by blackrock »

sasaf5 wrote: post #17
zed88 wrote: post #15

"Don't bite the hand that feeds you", it certainly sounds true in China. And after watching that interview with Elon, he certainly doesn't seem that bright.

To be fair with Ma, he doesn't seem to have the level of English required to have a smart conversation with a native speaker. I couldn't conclude much from that interview regarding his intellect.

Perhaps the white guy should debate with Jack Ma in Chinese?

Ever thought about that?

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

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Post by qart »

sasaf5 wrote: post #17
zed88 wrote: post #15

"Don't bite the hand that feeds you", it certainly sounds true in China. And after watching that interview with Elon, he certainly doesn't seem that bright.

To be fair with Ma, he doesn't seem to have the level of English required to have a smart conversation with a native speaker. I couldn't conclude much from that interview regarding his intellect.

Jack Ma was a lecturer in English and international trade. In his discussion with Musk, Ma did not seem to be struggling with the language. Instead, he came across as glib and silly.

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

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Post by solstice »

birdyrooster wrote: post #20

Okay this is not at all likely but wouldn't it be crazy if you know, given China's reputation, it's possible that Jack Ma could just be sitting tight out of public view letting the world assume that China killed him until they capitulate to his demands.

Very unlikely indeed. The government/party bigwigs he recently antagonize are not going to let an entrepreneur shame them publicly and let him get away with that. He's keeping or being kept out of public view until things are settled. I don't think they care what other countries assume and therefore there's no way for pressure to build up

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

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Post by nix23 »

blackrock wrote: post #21
sasaf5 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair with Ma, he doesn't seem to have the level of English required to have a smart conversation with a native speaker. I couldn't conclude much from that interview regarding his intellect.

Perhaps the white guy should debate with Jack Ma in Chinese? Ever thought about that?

Jack Ma is white too, stop with your racist bs.

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

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Post by boxed »

birdyrooster wrote: post #20

Okay this is not at all likely but wouldn't it be crazy if you know, given China's reputation, it's possible that Jack Ma could just be sitting tight out of public view letting the world assume that China killed him until they capitulate to his demands.

That would be pretty stupid. Then they would have already gotten the PR hit of killing him, might as well do it.

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

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Post by powerapple »

runawaybottle wrote: post #11

Would love to get a transcript of exactly what he said at a forum a few months ago, from Quartz: Speaking at a forum attended by some of China’s most powerful figures in politics and finance, Ma heavily criticized the “pawnshop mentality” of Chinese banks, and accused global authorities’ old-school financial regulation of slowing down innovation. The criticism eventually reached Chinese president Xi Jinping, who was…

Basically Jack said that the banks are working in 'pawnshop mentality', not using the data collected to evaluate loans. With Ant you can get loans in 10 seconds. He also said the global financial regulation is for countries with financial sector, and China's problem is not about regulation, is about there is nothing to regulate.

The new regulation on P2P financing requires Ant to put 30% of the loans with its own money. I can see from Ant's point of view, their loan is super safe (with all the taobao data and AliPay data collected). Ant group will create a financial entity to put its P2P business under banking regulation.

Another interesting thing is that Ant's loans mostly go to TaoBao sellers (small businesses), with their data, which are super safe from their point of view. The problem is that from regulators' point of view, maybe it is not obvious or it is hard to regulate it with one exception.

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

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Post by powerapple »

yoschi77 wrote: post #25
alexeiz wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget he's a CCP member himself.

pretty much everyone conducting major business in China has to be a CCCP member afaik

He joined the party when he was in College. Although many businessmen will be representatives as non-party members. Being a representative is more powerful than being a party member.
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