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Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

#11
Would love to get a transcript of exactly what he said at a forum a few months ago, from Quartz:

Speaking at a forum attended by some of China’s most powerful figures in politics and finance, Ma heavily criticized the “pawnshop mentality” of Chinese banks, and accused global authorities’ old-school financial regulation of slowing down innovation. The criticism eventually reached Chinese president Xi Jinping, who was furious about the remarks and personally ordered the suspension, according to the Wall Street Journal.

https://qz.com/1946723/theres-no-place-for-a-jack-ma-in-toda...

A couple of other interviews he’s been hammering away at the stagnant (according to him) Chinese banks, and the regulators basically snuffed him by forcing his Ant payment group to ‘stick to just payments’ (he wanted it to give loans via the system, becoming a type of bank in itself).

^ I can see how they would be afraid of this. I think Alibaba is trying to force sellers to only sell on Alibaba exclusively (not allowing them to sell on other sites if they want to sell on Alibaba). If Alipay gives loans, I could see how Ma might make it so that available credit is usable on Alibaba only, further tightening the hold. Jack Ma might be the one trying to be monopolistic here, but I’d love for someone with first-hand experience to speak to what’s going on over there.

Or maybe we’re all just sheep and Chinese insiders know how to shift stock prices with nonsense because they can and buy up shares. Those companies are increasingly being listed on global markets and all the CCP has to do is breath ‘eh, maybe no capitalism’, and the stocks move. SEC can’t stop that.

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

#12
Why is "Ma missed a TV recording in November" suddenly a story? China isn't the only one who might have wanted him to pull out, "owner involved in political controversy" could cause both Ali Baba and Ma to not want to appear om such a show, even if they were on the correct side. Has he missed anything else?

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

#13

He’s being re-educated. China has a wonderful track record on this process. Maybe he’ll be forced to labor at an Apple supplier like his Muslim friends as part of this process.

A similar thing happened to one of my favorite actresses, Fan Bingbing. Here is a good article with background: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/the-untold-stor...

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

#14

Would love to get a transcript of exactly what he said at a forum a few months ago, from Quartz: Speaking at a forum attended by some of China’s most powerful figures in politics and finance, Ma heavily criticized the “pawnshop mentality” of Chinese banks, and accused global authorities’ old-school financial regulation of slowing down innovation. The criticism eventually reached Chinese president Xi Jinping, who was…

bigger reason than Alibaba's market control is the fact that the Chinese government is absolutely allergic to unsecured debt. China over the last few years has desperately attempted, and with some sucess, cleaned up parts of its financial sector because the government fears few things more than a financial crisis, it's something they learned when they came out ahead in 2008/2009.

relevant read: https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/11/china-takes-step-aga...

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

#16

Why is "Ma missed a TV recording in November" suddenly a story? China isn't the only one who might have wanted him to pull out, "owner involved in political controversy" could cause both Ali Baba and Ma to not want to appear om such a show, even if they were on the correct side. Has he missed anything else?

He was a very public figure.

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

#17
post #15

"Don't bite the hand that feeds you", it certainly sounds true in China. And after watching that interview with Elon, he certainly doesn't seem that bright.

To be fair with Ma, he doesn't seem to have the level of English required to have a smart conversation with a native speaker. I couldn't conclude much from that interview regarding his intellect.

Re: Jack Ma has not been seen in public for two months

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He’s being re-educated. China has a wonderful track record on this process. Maybe he’ll be forced to labor at an Apple supplier like his Muslim friends as part of this process.

A similar thing happened to one of my favorite actresses, Fan Bingbing. Here is a good article with background: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/the-untold-stor...

I'm pretty sure she was caught for tax avoidance and/or corruption. Hence why she was locked up for a while.
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