This is a really pleasant surprise from Apple. Klim and Commercial Type employ some of the most talented type designers in the industry and licenses for their fonts would usually cost you many hundreds of dollars, so it's great for graphic designers to have have them more widely available.
New Fonts on macOS Catalina
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Re: New Fonts on macOS Catalina
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do these fonts have to be hidden in there, never to be seen by a high percentage of users? Probably to save disk space, since Macs often have smaller storage since the switch to SSDs. People who use fonts heavily will see them in Font Book. Similarly, 99½% of Mac users will never install the extra voices, or high-quality versions of the macOS default voices.
> high-quality versions of the macOS default voices. How do I do that?
It's in System Preferences, under Accessibility > Speech.
Re: New Fonts on macOS Catalina
#23Posted 8 days ago with the original title without gaining any traction https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23428245
Re: New Fonts on macOS Catalina
#24I noticed macOS has SF Mono installed. I was able to embed this in PDFs using locally available tools.
I shall therefore assume I have an implicit license to redistribute material set in this typeface.
Surely they couldn’t have meant to ship this face to me purely for my own local delectations? It must have been included so that I could make fair use by sharing work with others?! Thanks, Apple!
Not the case? So? Sue me!
Re: New Fonts on macOS Catalina
#25This is a really pleasant surprise from Apple. Klim and Commercial Type employ some of the most talented type designers in the industry and licenses for their fonts would usually cost you many hundreds of dollars, so it's great for graphic designers to have have them more widely available.
I think you can't use it for public works unless you have a valid license.
Re: New Fonts on macOS Catalina
#26This is a really pleasant surprise from Apple. Klim and Commercial Type employ some of the most talented type designers in the industry and licenses for their fonts would usually cost you many hundreds of dollars, so it's great for graphic designers to have have them more widely available.
I think you can't use it for public works unless you have a valid license.
From a comment by Ralf Herrmann on the page:
> > Great, but what about license details – what kind of usage is permitted? I can't seem to find any EULAs anywhere.
> The Mac OS Eula applies. Like with other bundled OS fonts, there are very few restrictions. You just can’t move the files away from the system and you can’t override the embedding restrictions.
> Here is the Eula: > https://www.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macOSCatalina.pdf
> The relevant part is:
>> E. Fonts. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, you may use the fonts included with the Apple Software to display and print content while running the Apple Software; however, you may only embed fonts in content if that is permitted by the embedding restrictions accompanying the font in question. These embedding restrictions can be found in the Font Book/Preview/Show Font Info panel.
Re: New Fonts on macOS Catalina
#27Is there something regional about this? While I do have a bunch of fonts I can download, Proxima Nova is not in the list.
When I read your comment I used the search box to look for Proxima Nova and I swear I also could not find it.
Then later I clicked on all fonts and scrolled down and there it was. Can you try another time?