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What can we do to fight corrupt governments?

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Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?

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Communities can better organize and work towards becoming self sufficient and independent of governments. Grow food. Create new sources of water. Help the poor. Develop better skill and knowledge bases allowing people to elevate their standard of living. The less we rely on governments, the less we need them, the more it forces them to do what they're supposed to.

Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?

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Communities can better organize and work towards becoming self sufficient and independent of governments. Grow food. Create new sources of water. Help the poor. Develop better skill and knowledge bases allowing people to elevate their standard of living. The less we rely on governments, the less we need them, the more it forces them to do what they're supposed to.

> Communities can better organize and work towards becoming self sufficient and independent of governments. Grow food. Create new sources of water. Help the poor.

A well organized community that provides basic resources is essentially a government. You are basically suggesting to replace government with government.

Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?

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Communities can better organize and work towards becoming self sufficient and independent of governments. Grow food. Create new sources of water. Help the poor. Develop better skill and knowledge bases allowing people to elevate their standard of living. The less we rely on governments, the less we need them, the more it forces them to do what they're supposed to.

> Communities can better organize and work towards becoming self sufficient and independent of governments. Grow food. Create new sources of water. Help the poor. A well organized community that provides basic resources is essentially a government. You are basically suggesting to replace government with government.

Governments today are isolated from the day to day struggle of their people. Their interests and values are not aligned with those they represent. Grassroots community movements do function similar to governments, but have the potential to be more transparent and less susceptible to corruption from special interests.

Ronald Reagan said it best:

"It has been said politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first."

Re: What can we do to fight corrupt governments?

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Not to detract from your root question, but it's worth being accurate with the numbers. The number of individual tax payers is 7.6 million, not 4 million. There is also company taxes on top of that [1]. But that's not the whole picture. You also have to take into account non-personal taxes like VAT, booze, smokes, sugar and petrol to name but a few. These are significant revenue sources, and ultimately tax low-income…

Its a very common way to say "white people pay for everyone", without actually having to say so. Which is why the 4 million taxpayers typically matches the number of white adults.

Dont forget coloured people and the middle class black income group. I was not trying to say white people are paying for everything. Its white people, coloured people and the black middle class paying for everything pretty much.
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