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A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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Surprised they are using American weapons (looks like M4 variants in the photos). I would have thought the FARC would have historically held onto Russian / Chinese AK platforms due to their reliability in Jungle environments. Unless they source most of their weapons from cartels?

Assuming most FARC arms are sourced in the U.S. and then shipped south, I could speculate as to the AK’s present scarceness.

New Chinese and Russian AKs are currently hard to find in the U.S. due to sanctions. China’s Norinco was sanctioned for trying to sell AKs (and heavy weapons) directly to L.A. street gangs. Russian state-owned arms manufacturers were sanctioned due to Russia’s military involvement in Ukraine. You can find new AKs for sale in the U.S., but they’re from a limited number of manufacturers and more expensive than the equivalent AR-style rifles.

In contrast, AR-style rifles are massively oversupplied right now, in the wake of both the Obama presidency and Hillary Clinton’s presidential candidacy. Manufacturers built up large inventories in expectation of “panic buying” after Hillary’s election. When that didn’t happen and sales didn’t pick up accordingly, prices fell. In fact, Colt recently stopped making AR-15s for consumers, saying “The fact of the matter is that over the last few years, the market for modern sporting rifles has experienced significant excess manufacturing capacity.”

Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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Fascinating. Jungle ops always intrigues me. So do insurgencies. But a jungle insurgency ...? I mean, good luck countering that if you're averse to burning down the entire forest. It takes some fanatically dedicated fighters to put up with that kind of life and still maintain even a rudimentary level of combat effectiveness.

Hmm except that’s what the Colombian military has been doing for almost two decades. At least 10 head commanders of FARC were killed through out the years, when the Colombian Military found their location and bombed their camps deep in the jungle.

I don't think that's an exception. That's exactly what I'm saying. These guys are the real deal.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm except that’s what the Colombian military has been doing for almost two decades. At least 10 head commanders of FARC were killed through out the years, when the Colombian Military found their location and bombed their camps deep in the jungle.

I don't think that's an exception. That's exactly what I'm saying. These guys are the real deal.

Gotcha. I read it differently. I thought you were saying that because they were hiding on the jungle it was hard to fight them.

The Colombian Military is probably the best military when it comes to fighting in this terrain.

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The problem is many in the government are right wingers hell bent on continuing the same war, same with many Colombians, just ask any of them, they don't support doing anything with the FARC. Kind of a sad story if you ask me, seems like Colombians don't learn from their own mistakes even though the FARC have been operating on the same premise for more than 2 decades.... their Government doesn't take care of their ow…

Here is a web developer pretending to understand a multi generational gap of power. The complexities of this armed conflict cannot be possibly explained in a line as rude as `colombians don't learn from their own mistakes`. For those of us the grew up in the midst of it, everyone you'll ever talk to wants better and more often than not, working on it. It's not just 2 decades. It's closer to 60 years.

Way to take my comments out of context, I make these comments actually as a Colombian myself first except I don't live there, also I don't believe it's as simple as saying Colombians don't learn from their own mistakes, but obviously there seems to be a lot of political turmoil much of which people instantly want engage with in emotional reaction instead of thinking about the bigger picture for the entire country at whole and what it would take to unite it.

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is a web developer pretending to understand a multi generational gap of power. The complexities of this armed conflict cannot be possibly explained in a line as rude as `colombians don't learn from their own mistakes`. For those of us the grew up in the midst of it, everyone you'll ever talk to wants better and more often than not, working on it. It's not just 2 decades. It's closer to 60 years.

Way to take my comments out of context, I make these comments actually as a Colombian myself first except I don't live there, also I don't believe it's as simple as saying Colombians don't learn from their own mistakes, but obviously there seems to be a lot of political turmoil much of which people instantly want engage with in emotional reaction instead of thinking about the bigger picture for the entire country at…

There can't be unity as long as the political leaders care only about their own small interests.

Like Álvaro Uribe. Good first mandate. Second mandate: it was all about making his sons richer, he stopped caring about the country. And now he only cares about staying out of jail.

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