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A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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Surprised they are using American weapons (looks like M4 variants in the photos). I would have thought the FARC would have historically held onto Russian / Chinese AK platforms due to their reliability in Jungle environments. Unless they source most of their weapons from cartels?

2nd page of the article:

> He is very eager to have a Kalashnikov like Lorena's, a comrade having told him that there's no better rifle for the jungle. Unfortunately, those rifles are currently hard to find, so Carlos has to make do with an American M16.

US is very happy to sell arms left and right, so its either through cartels or just good old arms dealers.

Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

#13

Surprised they are using American weapons (looks like M4 variants in the photos). I would have thought the FARC would have historically held onto Russian / Chinese AK platforms due to their reliability in Jungle environments. Unless they source most of their weapons from cartels?

2nd page of the article: > He is very eager to have a Kalashnikov like Lorena's, a comrade having told him that there's no better rifle for the jungle. Unfortunately, those rifles are currently hard to find, so Carlos has to make do with an American M16. US is very happy to sell arms left and right, so its either through cartels or just good old arms dealers.

For sure, putting gun runners out of a job

Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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post #11

And how does Alvizú expect the government to fix any problems if they're fighting a war against guerillas?

The problem is many in the government are right wingers hell bent on continuing the same war, same with many Colombians, just ask any of them, they don't support doing anything with the FARC.

Kind of a sad story if you ask me, seems like Colombians don't learn from their own mistakes even though the FARC have been operating on the same premise for more than 2 decades.... their Government doesn't take care of their own people and it's not hard for plenty of farmers to see.

Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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post #11

And how does Alvizú expect the government to fix any problems if they're fighting a war against guerillas?

The problem is many in the government are right wingers hell bent on continuing the same war, same with many Colombians, just ask any of them, they don't support doing anything with the FARC. Kind of a sad story if you ask me, seems like Colombians don't learn from their own mistakes even though the FARC have been operating on the same premise for more than 2 decades.... their Government doesn't take care of their ow…

Here is a web developer pretending to understand a multi generational gap of power. The complexities of this armed conflict cannot be possibly explained in a line as rude as `colombians don't learn from their own mistakes`. For those of us the grew up in the midst of it, everyone you'll ever talk to wants better and more often than not, working on it. It's not just 2 decades. It's closer to 60 years.

Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is many in the government are right wingers hell bent on continuing the same war, same with many Colombians, just ask any of them, they don't support doing anything with the FARC. Kind of a sad story if you ask me, seems like Colombians don't learn from their own mistakes even though the FARC have been operating on the same premise for more than 2 decades.... their Government doesn't take care of their ow…

Here is a web developer pretending to understand a multi generational gap of power. The complexities of this armed conflict cannot be possibly explained in a line as rude as `colombians don't learn from their own mistakes`. For those of us the grew up in the midst of it, everyone you'll ever talk to wants better and more often than not, working on it. It's not just 2 decades. It's closer to 60 years.

> Here is a web developer pretending to understand a multi generational gap of power.

Don't you know that computer science is the only degree program to make you an expert in math, physics, history, economics, and politics?

Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is a web developer pretending to understand a multi generational gap of power. The complexities of this armed conflict cannot be possibly explained in a line as rude as `colombians don't learn from their own mistakes`. For those of us the grew up in the midst of it, everyone you'll ever talk to wants better and more often than not, working on it. It's not just 2 decades. It's closer to 60 years.

> Here is a web developer pretending to understand a multi generational gap of power. Don't you know that computer science is the only degree program to make you an expert in math, physics, history, economics, and politics?

Do not forget arts, nutrition, and exercise.

Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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Didn't Colombians vote against Amnesty for farc in 2016? How is this not mentioned in the article

We didn't votate against amnesty, but against the full bunch of laws derivated from the process. Anyhow, after some discussions, the peace process was implemented and now over 95% of the guerilla members left the guns behind. There are a few remaining in narcotics business.

Re: A Visit to FARC's Jungle Lair

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post #14
post #11

And how does Alvizú expect the government to fix any problems if they're fighting a war against guerillas?

The problem is many in the government are right wingers hell bent on continuing the same war, same with many Colombians, just ask any of them, they don't support doing anything with the FARC. Kind of a sad story if you ask me, seems like Colombians don't learn from their own mistakes even though the FARC have been operating on the same premise for more than 2 decades.... their Government doesn't take care of their ow…

> operating on the same premise for more than 2 decades.... their Government doesn't take care of their own people and it's not hard for plenty of farmers to see.

... and so we should have a marxist-leninist class revolution to install a dictatorship of the proletariat, by armed insurgency if necessary, and if so, funded by drug trafficking, extortion, and kidnapping.

^ it helps if you at least attempt to describe things fully.

and yes, I realize the contras don't have clean hands either and are guilty of many of the same things.

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