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Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by gridlockd »

The study picks either incidence or death rates, presumably whichever fits the overlaid glyphosate usage line better.

Indeed the lines often fit well, but wouldn't you expect the death rate to lag behind the usage? Will glyphosate give you instant cancer that immediately kills you? Yeah, probably not.

Curiously, glyphosate usage rate significantly trails the death rate from Parkinson's, a slowly progressing disease. We must therefore conclude that Parkinson's causes glyphosate usage, not the other way around.

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by vatai »

desroq wrote: post #16

This paper has been written by the same guys who wrote that glyphosate causes autism : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff All their work have been heavily criticized by academics and therefore shouldn't find their way to mainstream media.

These are the people who make people distrust science! "In 2011, Seneff began publishing articles on topics related to biology and medicine, an area in which she has no relevant qualifications or expertise, in low-impact, open access journals, such as Interdisciplinary Toxicology and eight papers in the journal Entropy between 2011 and 2015.[2][8]"

She's a COMPUTER SCIENCE researcher for Pete's sake!

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by theshrike79 »

frafra wrote: post #13

It has been proven that gluten intolerance/sensitivity does not exist (while celiac disease is very real), so this article seems suspicious from the very first line. There are various studies about that, and even researchers that found some evidence about it, show that there is no such thing in more recent studies (10.1053/j.gastro.2013.04.051).

Wheat makes my belly look like a beach ball in under 30 minutes. Dunno if it's an insensitivity or intolerance, but that's how it is.

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

nesadi wrote: post #11
teekert wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Said paper is from 2013, 6 year without being confirmed or with being repressed?

It's been cited 155 times. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=61493914670281996... https://scholar.google.com/scholar?um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=61... Probably just gone unnoticed, ignored or suppressed by mainstream media. Edit: am I being downvoted by the same people who think voter suppression isn't a thing or pointing out China's mass incarceration of Uyghurs is propaganda? What in the fuck, Hacker News. I ex…

Its been cited 155 times. Which directly contradicts the pointless, obviously false claim that its been 'suppressed'. Combined with the paranoia about downvote reasons, and I suspect a troll.

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by _Wintermute »

GuB-42 wrote: post #19

I am skeptical of these findings. It matches the "gluten-free" fad and demonization of glyphosate too well. First, websites with "holistic" in their name are usually not the most trustworthy. The conclusion "...We need to go glyphosate-free, not gluten-free. And that means going organic..." seems overly broad. The paper, coming from a peer-reviewed journal, is a bit more trustworthy but it is also a small journal, wi…

The journal (Interdisciplinary Toxicology) is on both lists of predatory publishers I just checked. So it's about at trustworthy as a blog post.

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Post by mamcx »

unnamed76ri wrote: post #3

This does not explain why celiac would run in families or why it would only affect some family members. My grandfather, both my brothers and I, and my son have it. But many many other family members are perfectly fine. Presumably being exposed to similar amounts of glyphosate.

My brother is autistic and I'm not.

We are identical twins.

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by GuB-42 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #23
frafra wrote: post #13

It has been proven that gluten intolerance/sensitivity does not exist (while celiac disease is very real), so this article seems suspicious from the very first line. There are various studies about that, and even researchers that found some evidence about it, show that there is no such thing in more recent studies (10.1053/j.gastro.2013.04.051).

Wheat makes my belly look like a beach ball in under 30 minutes. Dunno if it's an insensitivity or intolerance, but that's how it is.

According to some research, it may be caused by FODMAPs, which are present in wheat. Evidence is still rather weak though.

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by thrill »

unnamed76ri wrote: post #3

This does not explain why celiac would run in families or why it would only affect some family members. My grandfather, both my brothers and I, and my son have it. But many many other family members are perfectly fine. Presumably being exposed to similar amounts of glyphosate.

For the same reason your similar genetic makeup did not make you all look identical.

Re: Study blames glyphosate for gluten intolerance and celiac disease epidemic

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Post by thrill »

frafra wrote: post #13

It has been proven that gluten intolerance/sensitivity does not exist (while celiac disease is very real), so this article seems suspicious from the very first line. There are various studies about that, and even researchers that found some evidence about it, show that there is no such thing in more recent studies (10.1053/j.gastro.2013.04.051).

You're going to call a study with 37 participants proof?
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