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Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by chrisseaton »

Pfhreak wrote: post #7

> I refuse to provide phone verification as I believe it is Discord's fault for flagging my account... > I will be communicating with a couple communities with which I'm involved to explain that I am unable to use Discord Does this person not have a phone? 'Unable' seems like a stretch. If this person said, "I don't want to provide my phone number to Discord, so I'm going to stop using it" I'd understand. Their openi…

I don't know any of the specifics of what's going on here, but phone verification is sometimes very tricky even for willing people, with a phone, and from western countries. I can't get a Lyft even when in the US because their verification system only works for US phone numbers and I have a British one!

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by scrollaway »

Judgmentality wrote: post #8
elmerfud wrote: post #2

This is a typical response from service companies in the Internet age. They don't care about truth, or what actually happened, the algorithm says you're bad then you're bad. There's no human to appeal to, no human oversight of if their algorithm is right or wrong. They use another algorithm to check it, which tells them that you must be a bad actor. I've had my own issues with Lyft that are similar. Banned from using…

Assuming you're willing to share, how did you get banned from Lyft without ever ordering a ride?

Dunno about GP but I had a similar experience with Lyft, which had to do with the type of card I registered to Lyft. I don't remember the specifics but my case wasn't particularly weird… I was using an EU mastercard of some kind and they decided it was a bad one so they banned me. This all happened without ordering a ride.

Had a similar experience with Uber, except that Uber actually eventually fixed it. Lyft was… unhelpful.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by giancarlostoro »

steve19 wrote: post #6

I like that for privicy reasons they won't tell you why you were banned. Whose privicy? Does that just mean "our black box NN has banned you and we won't know or care why" ?

For privacy reasons implies either what you are suggesting or that they are contacting Discord from an email address not affiliated with the account in question.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by ChuckMcM »

I am more and more thinking of this as a symptom of the "Data wars." I define that as the conflict between how much data someone is willing to share in exchange for a 'free' service.

The services aren't free of course, they pay their overhead and costs by re-selling the data they collect about their users. And as other sources of revenue (like ads) have lost value the data service has filled in. And since the data buyers know that the service provider is in a weak negotiating position they keep pressing on them to get more and more datamilk out of their data cows for the same amount of money.

The pressure is on to create a low friction pay as you go service for these things that don't extract data.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by pcmaffey »

kart23 wrote: post #18

Tor breaks a lot of shit for me, and I dont even bother with captchas becuase it usually just flags me as a bot. So I dont think this is particularly surprising or out of the ordinary. But yeah, discord used to be held in high standards by me and plenty of other gamers, but they have made it clear that they cannot handle tough situations, and dont really care about their userbase. Someone should start a privacy focus…

voice.google.com (not privacy focused, but works as a catchall number when you dont want to give out your own)

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by lidHanteyk »

Pfhreak wrote: post #7

> I refuse to provide phone verification as I believe it is Discord's fault for flagging my account... > I will be communicating with a couple communities with which I'm involved to explain that I am unable to use Discord Does this person not have a phone? 'Unable' seems like a stretch. If this person said, "I don't want to provide my phone number to Discord, so I'm going to stop using it" I'd understand. Their openi…

Discord's been an abusive member of the community for a long time. They distort nomenclature, mislead about their intentions, and aren't able to show that they protect personal information.

As a light and funny example, Discord doesn't comply with the OpenSSL license.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by Pfhreak »

jacquesm wrote: post #14
mostlysimilar wrote: post #3

I understand the frustration on the part of the user and I dislike that we're all being forced to give up our anonymity to use these platforms... but also the tone of both emails was quite antagonistic. They may have had slightly better luck if they'd been friendlier and not attempted to school the Discord staff on how their app should behave.

> but also the tone of both emails was quite antagonistic The customer is always right. > They may have had slightly better luck if they'd been friendlier and not attempted to school the Discord staff on how their app should behave. Or not. Besides, it should not matter, either they did something bad or they did not, the tone of the message may upset the recipient but when you ban someone just like that you can expec…

> The customer is always right.

This meme needs to go away. The customer is not always right, and it's deeply unhealthy for businesses to adopt this attitude. Even very customer centric businesses do not adopt this mantra.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by throwanem »

buboard wrote: post #17

I want to be done with discord. The only value i find is the notifications when you have an @reply. Isn't there someone that has done this for freenode or other IRC ?

Use a bouncer like ZNC and an app that supports it, and you can get push notifications on mentions.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by thekyle »

kart23 wrote: post #18

Tor breaks a lot of shit for me, and I dont even bother with captchas becuase it usually just flags me as a bot. So I dont think this is particularly surprising or out of the ordinary. But yeah, discord used to be held in high standards by me and plenty of other gamers, but they have made it clear that they cannot handle tough situations, and dont really care about their userbase. Someone should start a privacy focus…

I mean it's not exactly privacy focused but if you just use it for spam then Google Voice or Skype numbers would work fine for this.

Re: Guess I'm Done with Discord

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Post by scrollaway »

buboard wrote: post #17

I want to be done with discord. The only value i find is the notifications when you have an @reply. Isn't there someone that has done this for freenode or other IRC ?

https://www.irccloud.com/ does what you want (they have an app). If you use IRC heavily, I do recommend paying for it - it's useful and they fund IRCv3 among other things.
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