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Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

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Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

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I wish they'd go back to using healthy wheat protein (gluten) in their product, too. They did in early formulations, but eliminated it later on.

As a celiac, I certainly don't. Even for those that aren't celiac, making the claim that gluten is healthy is dubious at best.

I'd also imagine there are many more celiacs out there than those with soy allergies.

Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

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Related story: https://www.momsacrossamerica.com/gmo_impossible_burger_posi... > The levels of glyphosate detected in the Impossible burger by Health Research Institute Laboratories were 11 X higher than the Beyond Meat Burger. The total result (glyphosate and it’s break down AMPA) was 11.3 ppb. Moms Across America also tested the Beyond Meat Burger and the results were 1 ppb. > “We are shocked to find that the Impos…

To get both sides of the story, I encourage reading the official rebuttal against that article: https://assets.ctfassets.net/hhv516v5f7sj/77NQsg1qDb6d9Hi4PB...

Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

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post #20
post #3

Good. Anti-GM crusades are a load of anti-science nonsense, and if you're serious about replacing a percentage of America's meat intake (as Impossible seems to be) then it only makes sense to make the most of GM crops to get you there.

They’re doing this so they can irresponsibly dump roundup on the soy plants without killing them. Roundup is a non-specific herbicide, so this will damage the environment near the farms. Also, Roundup is almost certainly a carcinogen, and impossible burgers already have higher levels than competitors. I definitely won’t be buying any more of their product. Edit: Fun reading: https://www.regulations.gov/contentStreame…

Do you have any evidence they plan on doing this?

Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

#24
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With “natural” I mean natural for humans to eat them. Those foods can be assumed safe because, by definition, they have been eaten by humans for hundreds of thousands of years. Can you say the same thing for GM food?

Can you name one item at an organic grocery store that was eaten by modern humans even 50000 years ago?

Grass fed cows are about as close as it gets

Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

#25

The potential downside of GM food is human extinction. In the 80s and 90s the beef industry meddled with nature and started feeding animal meat to cows. The result was a disease that could have killed us all if we had eaten contaminated beef in the previous 10 years. If the genetic conditions that make people susceptible to vCJD were more common or universal, we might not be here today [1]. Grass-fed beef can be assu…

The potential downside of not worshiping Roko's Basilisk: Superintelligent Godess is similarly human extinction. She kills all pagans, you see. That's her thing. Kill the non-believers. Which is everyone, currently. Come to think of it...there are a literal infinitude of things which may result in our extinction. Zombies. Aliens. Rogue trapezists. Who knows! But we don't sweat the zombie thing. There's not sufficient…

The burden of the proof is on the GMOs. We have plenty of evidence that eating food that we’re not used to eat can cause catastrophic harm. If this was a local tribe experimenting with GMOs, then it’s fine. But if we expose virtually every person to that downside, the risks are considerable.

Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With “natural” I mean natural for humans to eat them. Those foods can be assumed safe because, by definition, they have been eaten by humans for hundreds of thousands of years. Can you say the same thing for GM food?

Over the thousands of years we were eating foods before the inventions of GMOs, we had plenty of other ways to breed crops and livestock to be more desirable. We also tended to die a lot of malnutrition.

Most tribal people died of natural causes or traumatic injuries, malnutrition was not widespread.

Read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price for more background on this.

Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

#27

I wish they'd go back to using healthy wheat protein (gluten) in their product, too. They did in early formulations, but eliminated it later on.

As a celiac, I certainly don't. Even for those that aren't celiac, making the claim that gluten is healthy is dubious at best. I'd also imagine there are many more celiacs out there than those with soy allergies.

This. Gluten allergies or intolerance seem to be on the rise. Probably makes sense to exclude it if they wanna be the future of food.

Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

#28
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really don’t see the relationship? The potential consequence of eating unnatural food that did not pass the test of time is catastrophic. Do this on a global scale, and the consequences could be global. Trans fats are another example.

Why do you think natural things are prima facie good ?

Why do you assume unnatural foods are inherently safe for human consumption?

Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

#29
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With “natural” I mean natural for humans to eat them. Those foods can be assumed safe because, by definition, they have been eaten by humans for hundreds of thousands of years. Can you say the same thing for GM food?

You can’t even say the same thing about broccoli.

Broccoli have been eaten for over 2000 years. If they killed us, we would have known.

Re: Impossible Burger: Commitment to consumers and our planet led us to use GM soy

#30
post #20
post #3

Good. Anti-GM crusades are a load of anti-science nonsense, and if you're serious about replacing a percentage of America's meat intake (as Impossible seems to be) then it only makes sense to make the most of GM crops to get you there.

They’re doing this so they can irresponsibly dump roundup on the soy plants without killing them. Roundup is a non-specific herbicide, so this will damage the environment near the farms. Also, Roundup is almost certainly a carcinogen, and impossible burgers already have higher levels than competitors. I definitely won’t be buying any more of their product. Edit: Fun reading: https://www.regulations.gov/contentStreame…

A lot of GMO soy actually lets them use less additional roundup that would contribute to runoff.

Edit: I was talking about run off specifically, not about the end product.

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