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Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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What was their win over AWS or GCE?

Not a customer, but their main differentiator was co-locality of data and compute resources, leading to better utilization/lower communication overhead. The use of Solaris, their port of kvm etc were implementation details. Sorry to see them go, one of the few "cloud" providers that actually seemed to to some creative thinking on the architecture side.

Yeah how can you compete against AWS / x86 / Linux on that space not sure.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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I can say without a doubt, if it weren’t for Joyent, my fantastic coworkers, and the experience and opportunity they granted me I wouldn’t be where I am today. I fondly remember debugging issues and learning so much with my talented coworkers. Congratulations Joyeurs on everything you’ve done to forward the Public Cloud and Systems Engineering.

The people at and the community around textdrive & joyent was a key part for me being able to learn a ton of stuff online about servers, writing software, good design etc.

Random kind inspiring people on the interwebs (most of whom I never met in person!). Incredible.

edit: also had one of their early "VC" deals for lifetime hosting. Very interesting feeling to have something you don't have to pay for anymore on a monthly basis, inspires to make the most of it. Got a ton of mileage out of it and wasn't upset about it being sunset, by that time hosting was quite cheap already.

edit2: When they started to adopt OpenSolaris I took a closer look and eventually ended up with it as my main desktop system back then & learned about ZFS and dtrace. Magical, fascinating times.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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TextDrive (bought by Joyent) was one of the first hosting services to support Ruby On Rails as a first-class service -- in the days when static hosting, PHP, Perl, and Java/Tomcat were the only options on Linux infrastructure. They were well-noted for their "lifetime hosting" membership deal, which was incredibly exciting at the time (this was in a day where flat-fee and free hosting outside the likes of MySpace and Geocities was unheard-of). TextDrive was where all the cool kids hosted their projects.

RIP Joyent public cloud (and the last remnant of TextDrive's legacy).

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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post #21
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a customer, but their main differentiator was co-locality of data and compute resources, leading to better utilization/lower communication overhead. The use of Solaris, their port of kvm etc were implementation details. Sorry to see them go, one of the few "cloud" providers that actually seemed to to some creative thinking on the architecture side.

Yeah how can you compete against AWS / x86 / Linux on that space not sure.

With technology which is an order of magnitude more concerned with reliability and easier to use than any competition out there, that's how.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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Could have been predicted seven years ago. Kudos for making it longer than expected.

Hindsight is 20/20. Linode (founded 16 years ago), and Digital Ocean (founded 8 years ago), are still alive and kicking, not to mention more traditional hosting companies like HostGator.

DigitalOcean have no serverless product and just spent a bunch of engineering resources on a new customer-managed Kubernetes setup.

The amount of people who are unsatisfied with DO's VM product and would be satisfied with a k8s product is tiny. The amount of people who would like somewhere to run functions and not care at all about infrastructure is growing rapidly.

If they're not skating to where the puck is moving they won't be around much longer.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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post #18

> For our existing public cloud and private data center customers, adding scale, financial muscle, and Samsung as both a partner for innovation and as a large anchor tenant customer for Triton and Manta, will pay big dividends. The tenant is now too large, please move out.

Fun fact, in 2008 Joyent was Twitter’s host and asked them to leave.

Source? I've not heard that take and would be curious to read more about it.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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TextDrive (bought by Joyent) was one of the first hosting services to support Ruby On Rails as a first-class service -- in the days when static hosting, PHP, Perl, and Java/Tomcat were the only options on Linux infrastructure. They were well-noted for their "lifetime hosting" membership deal, which was incredibly exciting at the time (this was in a day where flat-fee and free hosting outside the likes of MySpace and…

Also I just remembered Strongspace (which was one of their products back then), very compelling and well designed online storage (e.g. for backup) back then. In a way this could have grown into Dropbox or Box when you think of it.

The Joyent email + calendar + notes web app was also quite impressive at the time. So many memories.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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Can anyone explain Joyent to me? My understanding always was that they're some special kind of hosting provider. But I never really got it. They sponsor Node.js, they sponsor all kinds of ex-Sun Solaris-related stuff, employing high profile people from both communities. What does supporting (and, at a time in the past, basically running) Node.js get a hosting provider? What about Joyent's products is related to Node at all?

But oh, they're cancelling the public cloud, which I assume was the hosting service? Then what are they now? I went to their site but I totally didn't get it, I'm obviously not the target audience.

So, what does Joyent really do, how to they make money, and how does it make business sense for them to do all that illumos/zfs/node etc etc stuff? Are they an AWS competitor? A Heroku competitor? An Oracle/ex-Sun competitor? I really can't place them.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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End of an era. Lots of good stuff to come out of Joyent and I hope we don't see the end of their OSS contributions. Manatee (the state machine behind Manta PostgreSQL HA), the SmartOS KVM port, Triton itself - huge body of great stuff in addition to Illumos contributions that they are perhaps better known for.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact, in 2008 Joyent was Twitter’s host and asked them to leave.

Source? I've not heard that take and would be curious to read more about it.

https://techcrunch.com/2008/01/31/twitter-and-joyent-split-a...
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