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Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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Here's a blog explaining the decision : https://www.joyent.com/blog/joyent-announces-strategic-chang...

That doesn't explain anything really. What I want to know is what actually went on behind closed doors. Everything else is corporate public relations. In these cases hearsay is often far more accurate and reliable than these carefully worded statements. The statement implies that Samsung's hunger for resources had grown so large that there is no more room for the public hosting side of the business, but considering h…

Perhaps this has more to do with goals and focus than cost/efficiency. In many tech companies the scarcest resource is man-hours for development/maintenance.

The order of complexity for public cloud/multi-tenant is much higher than for private/single-tenant, especially given the recent onslaught of CPU vulnerabilities.

Still a big loss. I imagine it must feel like a defeat, especially to Bryan, given the corporate culture at Joyent. Open sourcing triton is great, but it still needs hosting for people to use it. Amazon/Google/Microsoft could certainly cut costs if they leveraged bare metal so who knows.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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That sucks really badly... Sad customer here.

What was their win over AWS or GCE?

Not a customer, but their main differentiator was co-locality of data and compute resources, leading to better utilization/lower communication overhead. The use of Solaris, their port of kvm etc were implementation details. Sorry to see them go, one of the few "cloud" providers that actually seemed to to some creative thinking on the architecture side.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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Wow, 5 months is an insanely short timetable to ask people to migrate entire systems to another vendor. I’m surprised their contracts don’t have better terms.

Joyent really doesn’t have a great track record on shutting down services... That said my view on the company is very much tainted by what happened many years ago when they where a different type of company all together. I personally purchased a few of their ‘VC’ plans before they when all enterprise.

If anyone's curious, some of that history was documented here: http://billturner.github.io/2014/02/28/whats-happened-to-tex...

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't explain anything really. What I want to know is what actually went on behind closed doors. Everything else is corporate public relations. In these cases hearsay is often far more accurate and reliable than these carefully worded statements. The statement implies that Samsung's hunger for resources had grown so large that there is no more room for the public hosting side of the business, but considering h…

Perhaps this has more to do with goals and focus than cost/efficiency. In many tech companies the scarcest resource is man-hours for development/maintenance. The order of complexity for public cloud/multi-tenant is much higher than for private/single-tenant, especially given the recent onslaught of CPU vulnerabilities. Still a big loss. I imagine it must feel like a defeat, especially to Bryan, given the corporate cu…

Yep, I could easily imagine Bryan being crushed by this. I know I would be, knowing I have superior technology to anyone else and yet being told I have to withdraw from the competition.

It's like coming to a race track with a car and being disqualified because one's car is too light and powerful.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't explain anything really. What I want to know is what actually went on behind closed doors. Everything else is corporate public relations. In these cases hearsay is often far more accurate and reliable than these carefully worded statements. The statement implies that Samsung's hunger for resources had grown so large that there is no more room for the public hosting side of the business, but considering h…

Perhaps this has more to do with goals and focus than cost/efficiency. In many tech companies the scarcest resource is man-hours for development/maintenance. The order of complexity for public cloud/multi-tenant is much higher than for private/single-tenant, especially given the recent onslaught of CPU vulnerabilities. Still a big loss. I imagine it must feel like a defeat, especially to Bryan, given the corporate cu…

I don't know that I had personalized it quite that deeply, but it's certainly an end of an era for us and for our public cloud customers. The technology is alive and well, and being used more broadly than ever for on-premises infrastructure. In that regard, the costs of the public cloud are less in the technology, and more in the surround of support, billing, etc. Certainly, the (significant) work that we had to do for CPU vulnerability mitigation needed to be done for our on-prem customers as well...

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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Could have been predicted seven years ago. Kudos for making it longer than expected.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Linode (founded 16 years ago), and Digital Ocean (founded 8 years ago), are still alive and kicking, not to mention more traditional hosting companies like HostGator.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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> For our existing public cloud and private data center customers, adding scale, financial muscle, and Samsung as both a partner for innovation and as a large anchor tenant customer for Triton and Manta, will pay big dividends.

The tenant is now too large, please move out.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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> For our existing public cloud and private data center customers, adding scale, financial muscle, and Samsung as both a partner for innovation and as a large anchor tenant customer for Triton and Manta, will pay big dividends. The tenant is now too large, please move out.

Fun fact, in 2008 Joyent was Twitter’s host and asked them to leave.

Re: Joyent Public Cloud EOL

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Joyent really doesn’t have a great track record on shutting down services... That said my view on the company is very much tainted by what happened many years ago when they where a different type of company all together. I personally purchased a few of their ‘VC’ plans before they when all enterprise.

If anyone's curious, some of that history was documented here: http://billturner.github.io/2014/02/28/whats-happened-to-tex...

earlier context: https://techcrunch.com/2012/08/16/cloud-computing-company-jo...
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